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Re: Any second half pitchers on your radar?

Postby Inukchuk » Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:26 pm

Ender wrote:Manny Parra looked great today and after this upcoming 3 game series vs the Dodgers they play bad teams for a month+ so he might be worth a look if your in a deeper league.


Beat me to it. I agree here. ;-D
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Re: Any second half pitchers on your radar?

Postby thejusman1 » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:49 am

What are the Cafe's thoughts on Joel Pineiro? That complete game victory last night against a stacked Brewers offense was impressive. I know he has a paltry K-rate, and his career stats scream that this year is an outlier, but he's inducing groundballs like no other this year, and the folks over at Fangraphs think it might be sustainable. There's a lot of value to be had with a guy on a contender who has impeccable control and can deliver a steady stream of wins and innings.

After an analysis of recent pitchers who have markedly improved their GB rate from one year to the next:

All of which is to say that if the pitcher can show such improvement in causing groundballs, then the improvement is most likely legitimate rather than a sample size fluke. So what’s the improved part of Pineiro’s game? His fastballs.

For one, Gameday is now classifying a large chunk of Pineiro’s fastballs as two-seamers, which seems accurate. Pineiro’s four-seam fastballs are also breaking in to righties more and ‘up’ less. Whatever the pitch is, Pineiro is giving batters of both hands absolute fits this season. Righties have a .702 OPS against despite an inflated BABIP and lefties have a .661 OPS against, albeit with a deflated BABIP. This isn’t the Pineiro we or the batters are used to, but I guess we’re stuck with this version for at least another year.


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Re: Any second half pitchers on your radar?

Postby Inukchuk » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:56 am

Pineiro's a nice back of the rotation guy. I'd definitely take a flier on him if you need pitching.
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Re: Any second half pitchers on your radar?

Postby Texican » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:01 pm

Randy Johnson had a killer 2nd half last year. Not sure how he will be after this DL stint though.
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Re: Any second half pitchers on your radar?

Postby AquaMan2342 » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:20 pm

slagbot wrote:i'd lay money that adam laroche goes undefeated with a 0.00 era AND whip in the second half.


I totally agree and think it's completely within the realm of possibility
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Re: Any second half pitchers on your radar?

Postby SlightlyStoopid » Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:47 pm

AquaMan2342 wrote:
slagbot wrote:i'd lay money that adam laroche goes undefeated with a 0.00 era AND whip in the second half.


I totally agree and think it's completely within the realm of possibility


I'd triple that money and say Atkins and Jones do the same thing. Money in the bank.
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Re: Any second half pitchers on your radar?

Postby Polar Bear » Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:53 pm

What about Ohlendorf? He isn't going to be great, but based on his matchup he is a decent start. I think he would be a good pick up for deep leagues or NL-Only.
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