im confused now. jeter was beat to the base by the ball (you need to tag him).
today i jsut watched the end of the dodgers/mets, mets getting the double play for the win. it hit 2nd, tagged 2nd base (not player), then thrown to first and tagged 1b (not player).
The Jeter call was insane. As an ump maybe you blow the call but you don't tell him that he doesn't need to be tagged and then tell Girardi the same thing.
Jeter was stealing 3rd. It wasn't a force out so he needed to be tagged. The ump was being lazy and said the throw beat Jeter to the base which was true but Jeter avoided the tag and was obviously safe. Then according to Jeter, the ump tells him that he doesn't need to be tagged cause the throw beat him to the base.
Pogotheostrich wrote:The ball has to be put into play and a runner has to be behind the first runner on the basepaths for there to be a force out.
The only exception I can think of is a runner who leaves a base before a caught fly ball. The ball must beat the player to the base he was on with no tag necessary.