LloydChristmas wrote: swyck wrote:
Gawd another Wins whine.
Last I looked the point of the game was to, um, win the game. The thing that bugs me is that you can make a case that all fantasy cats (other then MAYBE Ks and HRs) are flawed, so if you want to play in a 2x2 league with HR, OPS, K's and FIP be my guest.
No stat is without it's flaws. My main point is that wins can be very misleading. You see two pitchers with the same amount of wins and you assume they must have pitched at similar levels. That is many times very untrue. There's really no way to argue against that very basic point.
If you maintain a "the point of the game is to win" perspective, I'd welcome you to my league where I'll gladly trade you Randy Johnson (8 Wins) for Josh Johnson (7 Wins) because as Herman Edwards taught us "you play to win the game!"
Kidding aside, I understand the point you're trying to make. I never said wins shouldn't be a category in fantasy sports. Like I said, every stat has its flaws and that adds a lot of fun to fantasy sports in many ways. You have to consider a lot of factors when valuing players. If you'll read my blurb again, I was only saying that wins are overvalued when it comes to assessing a pitcher's performance. That's it and that's all.
I guess I extrapolated a bit into your post since there have been other posts that I felt were very whiny about wins. I do agree with your main point that wins are misleading, and I rarely base any fantasy decision on wins, though I try to favor pitchers on better teams when I have the choice of two otherwise close candidates.
I just feel that at some point we have to remember that the game is out there on the field and if you have the wins then you've done your job. You are getting credit for what is really a team effort but I see nothing wrong with that. My boss get credit for all my great work doesn't he?