I don't like Marquis. His high WHIP, lack of Ks, and performance the last few years leads me to believe that a regression is inline. Washburn is similar to Marquis in that he doesnt K anyone and his performance the last few years is average; however, his whip is low, which i like. Penny: no thanks, but he'll get wins if that's what you really need. I like Zimmerman the most out of the group but he won't get you very many wins.
It's really a mixed bag, but I'd rank them like this:
hmmm tough call. i own j zimmerman and he has been pretty good his past few outtings. keep an eye out on him, zimm also gives you more Ks. right now i would say washburn or brad penny. i read an article about marquis and they say with his BAHIP is so high he has been "Lucky" this yr
1) Jordan Zimmerman For a young pitcher seems to have great presence on the mound. I have watched his past three starts after I picked him up in my league and although he struggles a little with command at times (All young pitchers do) his pitches are always live, keeping hitters off balance. I also look at Washington's lineup and think they are far better than their record indicates, once milledge gets into the mix I think they are close to a .500 team in the second half, Dunn, Johnson, Morgan, Zimmerman, Willingham, Belliard are all professional hitters that will put it together. One flaw would be the closer situation, not sure how Mac-D can keep it up, but this team isn't that bad.
2) Jason Marquis Albeit half his games are in Coors, he remains a solid option. For most of his career has been asolid back-of-the-rotation guy, his experience and knowledge of hitters serves him well. He picks his spots, moving in and out. Has four pitches, including a plus four seamer, and plus curve. Always competes.
3) Jarrod Washburn When I look at this team I think they are playing over their heads. He plays in Safeco, but there are alot of Mashers out West in LA and Texas. Typically not a strong second half guy I thnk his numbers will correct themselves by years end. Did look great against Baltimore last night though.
4)Brad Penny Will at some point this year find himself in the bullpen, losing his spot to Clay Buccholz. His curve has flattened out over the years and he has lost some velocity but trys to pitch the same. Needs to adjust and refocus.
I'm leaning pretty heavily towards Zimmermann. I don't believe in Marquis or Washburn in the second half of the season. Never know, but I wouldn't count on their second halves being nearly as strong as their first halves. Not big on Penny either, especially with a looming trade or whatever to make room for Buckholz.
These replies have mostly validated my opinion. I know Zimmerman isn't going to net me many wins, but that is 1 of 8 pitching categories in my weekly H2H league so I don't chase wins. His other numbers have been very solid over his last several starts and it's good to hear from someone who has actually watched him pitch, as I have not.
Thanks again.
Last edited by lbblue on Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
yankeeclipper02 wrote:Here is how I rate these guys an why:
1) Jordan Zimmerman For a young pitcher seems to have great presence on the mound. I have watched his past three starts after I picked him up in my league and although he struggles a little with command at times (All young pitchers do) his pitches are always live, keeping hitters off balance. I also look at Washington's lineup and think they are far better than their record indicates, once milledge gets into the mix I think they are close to a .500 team in the second half, Dunn, Johnson, Morgan, Zimmerman, Willingham, Belliard are all professional hitters that will put it together. One flaw would be the closer situation, not sure how Mac-D can keep it up, but this team isn't that bad.
2) Jason Marquis Albeit half his games are in Coors, he remains a solid option. For most of his career has been asolid back-of-the-rotation guy, his experience and knowledge of hitters serves him well. He picks his spots, moving in and out. Has four pitches, including a plus four seamer, and plus curve. Always competes.
3) Jarrod Washburn When I look at this team I think they are playing over their heads. He plays in Safeco, but there are alot of Mashers out West in LA and Texas. Typically not a strong second half guy I thnk his numbers will correct themselves by years end. Did look great against Baltimore last night though.
4)Brad Penny Will at some point this year find himself in the bullpen, losing his spot to Clay Buccholz. His curve has flattened out over the years and he has lost some velocity but trys to pitch the same. Needs to adjust and refocus.
yankeeclipper02 wrote:Here is how I rate these guys an why:
1) Jordan Zimmerman For a young pitcher seems to have great presence on the mound. I have watched his past three starts after I picked him up in my league and although he struggles a little with command at times (All young pitchers do) his pitches are always live, keeping hitters off balance. I also look at Washington's lineup and think they are far better than their record indicates, I think they are close to a .500 team in the second half, Dunn, Johnson, Morgan, Zimmerman, Willingham, Belliard are all professional hitters that will put it together. One flaw would be the closer situation, not sure how Mac-D can keep it up, but this team isn't that bad.
2) Jason Marquis Albeit half his games are in Coors, he remains a solid option. For most of his career has been asolid back-of-the-rotation guy, his experience and knowledge of hitters serves him well. He picks his spots, moving in and out. Has four pitches, including a plus four seamer, and plus curve. Always competes.
3) Jarrod Washburn When I look at this team I think they are playing over their heads. He plays in Safeco, but there are alot of Mashers out West in LA and Texas. Typically not a strong second half guy I thnk his numbers will correct themselves by years end. Did look great against Baltimore last night though.
4)Brad Penny Will at some point this year find himself in the bullpen, losing his spot to Clay Buccholz. His curve has flattened out over the years and he has lost some velocity but trys to pitch the same. Needs to adjust and refocus.
I'd take Zimmerman out of the the four for his ability to strike hitters out, and the possibility that as a youngster he's finally beginning to figure this league out.
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by lbblue » Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:47 pm 
