2 Awesome Deals -- Can't Decide Which to Do (WHIR)

[sigriffey]

So I have two deals great deals before me ... which of these plays better for me this year and beyond? I want to improve my SP but also get the best return I can for the guys I am giving up ... studs in their own right but mediocre this year for some reason.
Here's the keeper deal: ANYONE CAN be kept for a total of 3 years, and guys with a "K" are keepers from last year and can only be kept thru 2010. Anyone else can be kept thru 2011. 6 players can be kept at the end of any season.

It comes down to which is a better combo for me, keepers factored in: Votto/Vazquez or Lind/Greinke

All are great players. I am not wild about Vazquez's losses and lack of wins, but I am also a bit more keen on Votto than Lind as a keeper given what he has shown us when he plays.

As of now, definite keepers are Pujuls, Longoria, Cabrera --- then I have 3 to play with after that (so maybe Billingsley, CC, Pedroia, Granderson, etc.) ... ok enough said--- see the deals below. WHIR always.

DEAL A.)

I GIVE: Rollins (K), Soriano (K) and Aaron Cook
I GET: Jeter (K), Votto (K) and Javier Vazquez

DEAL B.)

I GIVE: Rollins (K), Soriano (K) and Aaron Cook
I GET: Jeter (K), Lind, and Zack Greinke

12 Team H2H league, with 6 Keepers -- (Keepers go back into the draft after 2010).

stat categories: R, 1B, 2B, 3B, HR, RBI, SB, BB, AVG -- IP, W, L, CG, ER, ERA, K, SV, WHIP


My Team:

C Wieters
1B Pujols (K)
2B Pedroia (K)
SS Rollins (K)
3B E.Longoria
OF Soriano (K)
OF Granderson
OF Podsednik
UT Miggy Cabrera (K)
UT Napoli
UT F.Sanchez
B Griffey, Beckham, Mcgehee



SP Sabathia (K), Billingsley, Lilly, Slowey, Kershaw, Hanson, A.Cook
RP Broxton, Street, Nunez
DL: Peavy (K)

[SecretAgentMan]

You are selling Rollins and Soriano both at lows for what amounts to Votto, Jeter and trash in Deal A and Jeter, Lind and Greinke in the other deal. And if you can only keep 6 and already have Pujols, Longoria, Miguel Cabrera, Billingsley, Pedroia, Sabathia and Granderson, then why are you helping someone? None of the players you get will break your top 6 keepers and I would not be dealing just to get the extra one year of contract.

If you want help for this year, then work out a deal for Jeter giving up Rollins and someone marginal (you basically give up on Rollins, which is probably the right call right now). If you want both Jeter and Votto for this year, then deal Rollins and Peavy imo. Peavy is going to be back in Mid-August if you are lucky, so at this point he misses half the remaining season. If you do not plan on keeping him next year, send him packing and keep Soriano who will at least post some power for you and be playing. And you can throw in Cook to get a pitching upgrade and see if it flies. My 2 cents. I just rather keep Soriano as flawed a player as he is over a pitcher that is hurt, out at least 6 weeks and not being kept anyway.

[sigriffey]

Interesting... this is probably a good time to post HIS Team ... BTW, I should mention he is in 1st place and I am in 6th place ... lots of bad luck on my end...

His team:

C R.Hernandez
1B Dunn
2B F.Lopez
3B Atkins
SS Jeter
OF Pence
OF Lind
OF Damon
UT McCutchen
UT Votto
UT Werth
B Peralta, Ianetta, I.Stewart

SP Greinke, Vazquez, W.Rodriguez, U.Jimenez, Liriano, Danks,
RP Soria, R.Soriano, Lidge, Marmol
DL Maine

[skjelstrom]

I would say go with Deal B IF you can cope with giving up Soriano. Soriano could be a huge + in the future but Greinke and Lind will also I think. I think Jeter is going downhill and Rollins will still be in the top in the future but never what he was in his MVP year.

Thanks for help with mine

[Sunsr4u2njoy]

If I had to make one of the trades I would do trade B, I like Votto but Greinke is one of the top in the league this year and Lind is playing nicely.

[SecretAgentMan]

I am surprised he is in first. I am also surprised that he would want to take on the risk of Rollins in that case as well.

I would look to deal Rollins, Peavy, Pods, and Mcgehee and try to get Jeter, Votto, Damon and Danks. You can add a marginal player to sweeten the deal if necessary. I doubt he goes for it, but who knows. I think getting Damon over Pds helps you more than getting Greinke but he may not be willing to do that.

Another option is to see where you are in Saves. If you can not move many points up or down, then selling Broxton is the way to go. Get Lidge or Soria in return to make up some of the saves and use Broxton as a means to pry a top player from his roster.

[sigriffey]

BUMP

OK close to doing a deal

Bottom Line: he won't deal Greinke AND Votto ... so the question is, who would I rather have? I am not sure ... my hunch is Greinke, because pitching is key. Thoughts?

[DiMoTik]

Greinke without a doubt

[SecretAgentMan]

You need offense more than you need another SP imo. You are starting Pods in the OF and have Napoli and Sanchez at Util with a very lame bench imo (to go along with Rollins at SS). Sanchez would be OK as a starting 2b, but at Util? Griffey is not fantasy worthy in a mixed league and the other 2 are unproven. You have a solid staff, so upgrading Cook is not as big a need imo.

[michaelyoung4prez]

I like the Greinke trade more because of him being involved regardless of his "swoon" which is still better numbers than 95% of starting pitchers in the league