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Cafe Positional Rankings: Week 12

Postby WebHamster » Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:41 pm

This thread contains comments on the Cafe's "Cafe Positional Rankings: Week 12", which was posted in the Cafe's Player Rankings section by R.J. White on June 25, 2009. The full article can be read here.
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Re: Cafe Positional Rankings: Week 12

Postby Treebeard's Nuts » Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:19 pm

This caught my eye:

Tommy Hanson dropped from 40 to 41 a week after beating both the soxs and yanks with a 0.00 era and a 1.15 whip? :-S
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Re: Cafe Positional Rankings: Week 12

Postby daullaz » Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:09 pm

We submitted our rankings Tuesday (before the Yanks game). They were edited Wednesday and up on Thursday.
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Re: Cafe Positional Rankings: Week 12

Postby Geek » Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:32 am

What's the thinking for ranking Jimmy Rollins ahead of Derek Jeter, who has VASTLY superior numbers in not one, not two, not three, but all five categories?

Alexei Ramirez and Troy Tulowitzki have been much better than Rollins as well.

The logic of putting the worst hitting shortstop in the major leagues as the #2 ranked SS for fantasy is a real puzzler.

Over the past month, Rollins has had less fantasy value than . . . Bobby Crosby.
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Re: Cafe Positional Rankings: Week 12

Postby daullaz » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:55 am

Our rankings are meant to be for the rest of the season, as opposed to rankings players based solely on what's happened so far, so players that we feel will bounce back get ranked higher than they might deserve. I believe Rollins is still sitting at 2 because the gap between him and the next SSs in the preseason was so large. I moved him down to 3 in my personal rankings last week, and after being benched for a few games this week, I think I'm going to move him down a few more spots.

I'm well aware of how bad Rollins has been, suffering through his performance on one of my main teams. FWIW, [url="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=971&position=SS"]ZiPS is still optimistic[/url], giving him 10 HRs and 18 SBs from this point on.
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Re: Cafe Positional Rankings: Week 12

Postby Geek » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:01 pm

Hrmmm, that power number seems high (hasn't hit more than 3 HR in a month since 2007) and that SB total seems low. Anyhow, thanks for responding.

P.S. I would feel pretty confident that Jeter, Alexei Ramirez, and Tulo all get rated ahead of him going into 2010 drafts, given that his best case scenario for full season stats would still be a regression to 2003-2004 levels of performance.
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Re: Cafe Positional Rankings: Week 12

Postby daullaz » Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:38 pm

Geek wrote:Hrmmm, that power number seems high (hasn't hit more than 3 HR in a month since 2007) and that SB total seems low. Anyhow, thanks for responding.

P.S. I would feel pretty confident that Jeter, Alexei Ramirez, and Tulo all get rated ahead of him going into 2010 drafts, given that his best case scenario for full season stats would still be a regression to 2003-2004 levels of performance.


I'd agree with that. Barring a huge comeback, I'd rather have any of those three than Rollins next year.
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Re: Cafe Positional Rankings: Week 12

Postby Treebeard's Nuts » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:17 pm

daullaz wrote:We submitted our rankings Tuesday (before the Yanks game). They were edited Wednesday and up on Thursday.


Makes sense than...Thank you for the response. ;-D
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