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Re: Top 25 for '10

Postby lastingsgriller » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:07 am

bout time to bring adam jones in the mix..

just as good as Kemp or J-up or B-up.
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Re: Top 25 for '10

Postby AquaMan2342 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:18 am

David Wright is not a top 5 pick next year. No way. Not until he (or other Mets) can prove that Citi doesn't have an effect on offensive numbers. Bobby Abreu has better numbers than Wright right now.

Edit: Granderson should be ahead of Soriano too.
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Re: Top 25 for '10

Postby oddmanout7 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:50 am

1 Pujols
2 Hanley
3 A-Rod
4 Braun
5 Utley
6 Tex
7 Kinsler
8 Mcab
9 Wright
10 Longoria
11 Morneau
12 Howard
13 Fielder
14 Lincecum
15 Beltran
16 Reyes
17 Johan
18 Crawford
19 Bay
20 Kemp
21 BJ Upton
22 Mauer
23 JUpton
24 Granderson
25 MHolliday

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Re: Top 25 for '10

Postby AquaMan2342 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:55 am

1 Pujols
2 Hanley
3 A-Rod
4 Braun
5 Utley
6 Tex
7 Cabrera
8 Longoria
9 Fielder
10 Morneau
11 Lincecum
12 Howard
13 Kinsler
14 Kemp
15 Beltran
16 Reyes
17 Mauer (realize he's injury prone but worth it)
18 Crawford
19 Holliday
20 Wright
21 BJ Upton
22 Santana
23 JUpton
24 Granderson
25 Bay
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Re: Top 25 for '10

Postby da bears » Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:32 am

I understand his average might not be something to write home about but doesn't the progress Mark Reynolds has made at the plate deserve some top 25 recognition? 30-20 at 3rd or 1st, I'll take it.
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Re: Top 25 for '10

Postby thejusman1 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:53 am

da bears wrote:I understand his average might not be something to write home about but doesn't the progress Mark Reynolds has made at the plate deserve some top 25 recognition? 30-20 at 3rd or 1st, I'll take it.


I don't think so. To be a Top 25 pick, you've got to have almost zero to no risk. Of course high picks bust all the time, look at this year's class (Wright, Sizemore, Rollins, Reyes, etc.) But the guys who have had at least a couple stud years are the only ones deserving to be drafted in the top 2 rounds because they offer the most minimal risk and high return investment due to their record. I think that's why Longoria was such a hard classification this year, because many people thought he could be a first rounder but didn't want to take a chance on him that early. Mark Reynolds has never shown he can hit for average, and I'm not buying his steals (his rate has dramatically decreased even prior to the second half.) I don't think you can call him a perennial 40 homer guy until he does it again next year too.
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Re: Top 25 for '10

Postby chadlincoln » Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:56 am

thejusman1 wrote:
da bears wrote:I understand his average might not be something to write home about but doesn't the progress Mark Reynolds has made at the plate deserve some top 25 recognition? 30-20 at 3rd or 1st, I'll take it.


I don't think so. To be a Top 25 pick, you've got to have almost zero to no risk. Of course high picks bust all the time, look at this year's class (Wright, Sizemore, Rollins, Reyes, etc.) But the guys who have had at least a couple stud years are the only ones deserving to be drafted in the top 2 rounds because they offer the most minimal risk and high return investment due to their record. I think that's why Longoria was such a hard classification this year, because many people thought he could be a first rounder but didn't want to take a chance on him that early. Mark Reynolds has never shown he can hit for average, and I'm not buying his steals (his rate has dramatically decreased even prior to the second half.) I don't think you can call him a perennial 40 homer guy until he does it again next year too.


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Re: Top 25 for '10

Postby KCollins1304 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:58 am

AquaMan2342 wrote:1 Pujols
2 Hanley
3 A-Rod
4 Braun
5 Utley
6 Tex
7 Cabrera
8 Longoria
9 Fielder
10 Morneau
11 Lincecum
12 Howard
13 Kinsler
14 Kemp
15 Beltran
16 Reyes
17 Mauer (realize he's injury prone but worth it)
18 Crawford
19 Holliday
20 Wright
21 BJ Upton
22 Santana
23 JUpton
24 Granderson
25 Bay


I like your list pretty well. I think Wright will be gone by 15th at the latest though, and with Bay's swoon lately I don't think he'll end up in the top 25, probably 30-40.
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Re: Top 25 for '10

Postby da bears » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:06 pm

So a guy who over the past two seasons has hit a HR every 16-17 plate appearances, is 25 years old, improved his walk rate, has shown a bit of speed, and plays 3rd base isn't top 25 material but Curtis Granderson is? Seems like people don't really want to believe this guy is actually improving.
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Re: Top 25 for '10

Postby KCollins1304 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:46 pm

da bears wrote:So a guy who over the past two seasons has hit a HR every 16-17 plate appearances, is 25 years old, improved his walk rate, has shown a bit of speed, and plays 3rd base isn't top 25 material but Curtis Granderson is? Seems like people don't really want to believe this guy is actually improving.


Granderson has been putting up his current line for 3 seasons now, that is why people would value him more. Reynolds line other than his power came out of the blue.
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