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Ben Zobrist for Brad Hawpe

Postby Youngsir620 » Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:41 pm

I was recently offered Ben Zobrist (2B,SS,OF) for my Brad Hawpe (OF)

League stats are R, H, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP. 10 Team H2H

What do you think?

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Joe Mauer
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Albert Pujols
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Chase Utley
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Álex Rodríguez
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Clint Barmes
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Torii Hunter
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Matt Holliday
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Brad Hawpe
(Col - OF)
Garrett Atkins
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Juan Pierre
(LAD - OF)
Adam Jones
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Pablo Sandoval
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Manny Ramírez
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Aramis Ramírez
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Re: Ben Zobrist for Brad Hawpe

Postby angels7777 » Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:23 pm

you could use some help at SS and seem to have OF depth so I might chance it on Zobrist

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Re: Ben Zobrist for Brad Hawpe

Postby jake_twothousandfive » Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:50 pm

This is a difficult question.

Personally, I almost always go with the safer picks. I try to avoid the flashy prospects and up-and-comers and stick with the safer veterans. In this case, Hawpe certainly fits that mold much better than someone like Zobrist.

However, Zobrist is showing now signs of slowing down. When you consider that he finished last year strong as well, he has really played about 4 months of outstanding baseball straight. Looking further into his stats, nothing shouts outliner. His BABIP is about where it should be, his HR/FB rate is due to regress slightly but nothing major, he's rarely caught stealing bases, his BB/K rate is up, his contact rate is in line with his career percentages, etc. There's really nothing that indicates a slowdown is likely.

All in all, Zobrist looks to be a better bet than Barmes for the remainder of the season. Since you have more than enough OF depth to replace Hawpe I'd say in this case the breakout player trumps the relatively safe bet.

All things considered, I'd pull the trigger. ;-D
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Re: Ben Zobrist for Brad Hawpe

Postby briane » Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:59 pm

I would take Zobrist for the position flexibility. You can start Adam Jones.

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Re: Ben Zobrist for Brad Hawpe

Postby fan of the cubs » Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:06 am

Zobrist is in a better lineup and contributes in every category, plus he is eligible at three positions. Even if he cools in terms of home runs and rbi, he'll still get you runs and steals.
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Re: Ben Zobrist for Brad Hawpe

Postby noren0 » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:32 am

ABSOLUTELY!!!... Jake said it best...


jake_twothousandfive wrote:This is a difficult question.

Personally, I almost always go with the safer picks. I try to avoid the flashy prospects and up-and-comers and stick with the safer veterans. In this case, Hawpe certainly fits that mold much better than someone like Zobrist.

However, Zobrist is showing now signs of slowing down. When you consider that he finished last year strong as well, he has really played about 4 months of outstanding baseball straight. Looking further into his stats, nothing shouts outliner. His BABIP is about where it should be, his HR/FB rate is due to regress slightly but nothing major, he's rarely caught stealing bases, his BB/K rate is up, his contact rate is in line with his career percentages, etc. There's really nothing that indicates a slowdown is likely.

All in all, Zobrist looks to be a better bet than Barmes for the remainder of the season. Since you have more than enough OF depth to replace Hawpe I'd say in this case the breakout player trumps the relatively safe bet.

All things considered, I'd pull the trigger. ;-D
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Re: Ben Zobrist for Brad Hawpe

Postby WaCougMBS » Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:19 pm

jake_twothousandfive wrote:This is a difficult question.

Personally, I almost always go with the safer picks. I try to avoid the flashy prospects and up-and-comers and stick with the safer veterans. In this case, Hawpe certainly fits that mold much better than someone like Zobrist.

However, Zobrist is showing now signs of slowing down. When you consider that he finished last year strong as well, he has really played about 4 months of outstanding baseball straight. Looking further into his stats, nothing shouts outliner. His BABIP is about where it should be, his HR/FB rate is due to regress slightly but nothing major, he's rarely caught stealing bases, his BB/K rate is up, his contact rate is in line with his career percentages, etc. There's really nothing that indicates a slowdown is likely.

All in all, Zobrist looks to be a better bet than Barmes for the remainder of the season. Since you have more than enough OF depth to replace Hawpe I'd say in this case the breakout player trumps the relatively safe bet.

All things considered, I'd pull the trigger. ;-D


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