Manuel is old school. He will be loyal to Lidge to a fault. However, as stated above, he is no fool. If Madson is lights out, I think Lidge will come back and "be worked back into the role" and pitch in some non-9th inning situations to see if his problems are worked out. If they are, he'll resume closing. But Manuel won't keep trotting him out there with a bum knee and shattered confidence. Managers usually stand behind their guys, but when their back is up against the wall like it will be if Madson is solid, their hand is forced to do what is right for the team, which everyone may see is put Madson in for the 9th.