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Re: My J.Lopez for Casilla and Escobar?(WHIR)

Postby kidsilk » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:10 pm

Lopez is ranked as the 7th best second baseman right now.
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Re: My J.Lopez for Casilla and Escobar?(WHIR)

Postby angels7777 » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:11 pm

where does Casilla rank?
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Re: My J.Lopez for Casilla and Escobar?(WHIR)

Postby kidsilk » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:18 pm

Casilla is ranked at 15th best right now.
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Re: My J.Lopez for Casilla and Escobar?(WHIR)

Postby angels7777 » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:22 pm

I still think a top starting pitcher is more difficult to come across than a low end 2B
- I would take the chanceon Escobar or at least give him a couple starts

can u take a look at mine again?
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C- JP
1B- Voto
2B- Zobri
3B- ARam
SS- Rolins
OF- J. Uptn, Choo, A. Gordn
UTIL- Fielder
BN- C. Crawfrd
SP- Hamls, Bumgarner, Galardo, I. Kenedy, Fister, Kurda, Minr, Dempstr, Burnet, Ogando
RP- Cishek, Veras, Parnel
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Re: My J.Lopez for Casilla and Escobar?(WHIR)

Postby philaphan » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:40 pm

I would do the deal. Lopez hasn't really done much and I think Escobar has better upside. Pull the trigger! I don't think you will miss Lopez....

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Re: My J.Lopez for Casilla and Escobar?(WHIR)

Postby SpecialFNK » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:57 pm

what Lopez did last season was probually his ceiling, so i wouldnt expect more than that.
Casilla is interesting and risky. in 2008 while in AAA he had .219/.350/.250/.600/ but this season while in AAA he had .316/.353/.392/.745/
hes not going to offer help in HR, the 7 he had last year was a fluke. in 417G/1565AB in the minors he only had 7 HR total, while last year with the Twins he had 7 HR in only 98G/385AB.
Escobar is also interesting. he hasnt pitched in the majors since 2007, so i wouldnt really expect alot from him in 2009. i highly doubt he gets back to his 2007 type numbers after all the time hes missed.
last season in the minors Escobar only had 5 total innings. this season he had 15.2 total innings before pitching for the Angels. i would say hes a huge risk. if you can get someone else other than Escobar it might be worth looking into, but for these players i would have to say not good enough package right now for Lopez, even though Lopez himself isnt that special.
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Re: My J.Lopez for Casilla and Escobar?(WHIR)

Postby dloke » Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:04 pm

i don't like the trade. a decent 2B - especially in a AL only league - is MUCH harder to find than SPs, who often come out of nowhere. added to that the injury risk that escobar presents and i would hold off unless he offered a better SP
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Re: My J.Lopez for Casilla and Escobar?(WHIR)

Postby joecahill » Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:53 pm

I agree that you don't take this deal. The dropoff in production in a 2B in a league that deep is too steep a price to pay for a questionable-at-best health risk in Escobar. In a perfect world...one where Escobar has pitched the last two seasons...I would take this trade. Just not in the one we live in.

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Re: My J.Lopez for Casilla and Escobar?(WHIR)

Postby kidsilk » Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:59 pm

What if he included Baker or Liriano instead of Escobar? Those are his best pitchers except for Greinke.
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