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Postby red » Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:30 pm

What are your thoughts on the man? Last season he was excellent, of course, we all know that. Second half, he tailed off a little but was still fine. Now, less hitting in the division aside from Anaheim; but he's 41 and I'm scared to death of using him.
Right now he's penciled in as my fourth starter (K.Brown, Wolf, Myers, J. Williams) plus Lieber/Pavano/affeldt/cliff lee waiting in the wings.
Should I move Moyer? Does anyone expect that he will still be good for 15 or so wins?
Thoughts?
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Postby Guest » Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:33 pm

I dont have that much confidence in moyer. He did have a great year last year but i think hes getting too old and losing his stuff. I think hes good for about 13 wins, probably around a 3.75 E.R.A
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Postby LBJackal » Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:49 pm

He should be able to get 15 wins. I can throw harder than him, but he still managed to get 21 last year. He won't get K's but he's shown he can TCB without over-powering anybody. Similar to Maddux. Once he starts losing movement on his pitches and his control, watch out though. He's risky, but has upside for the ratios and wins.
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Postby red » Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:16 pm

Come on boys, more Moyer comments! Really not sure if I should move the man. How's this-- if you think I should move him-- who is the "target range" or hitter or pitcher to get?
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:30 pm

Given your current SP aituation, I would not try and move Moyer. KB is great of course, but he is an injury risk. Wolfs %s werent eye popping, but he is slightly above avg. Myers and Williams are pretty big risks too of course. Out of the others, I would only be happy about Cliff Lee as of right now.
Basically what I see is a SP staff drafted with upside in mind, and that includes the risk those type of picks present as well. Given that, I think Moyer is less of a risk even though he is 100 yrs old. I see Moyer as a low risk, low upside compliment to your high risk, high reward SP staff, and I would nt be trying to move him as it stands.
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Postby red » Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:07 am

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:Given your current SP aituation, I would not try and move Moyer. KB is great of course, but he is an injury risk. Wolfs %s werent eye popping, but he is slightly above avg. Myers and Williams are pretty big risks too of course. Out of the others, I would only be happy about Cliff Lee as of right now.
Basically what I see is a SP staff drafted with upside in mind, and that includes the risk those type of picks present as well. Given that, I think Moyer is less of a risk even though he is 100 yrs old. I see Moyer as a low risk, low upside compliment to your high risk, high reward SP staff, and I would nt be trying to move him as it stands.


I eventually traded Moyer late last night for Oswalt (Moyer in a package). For the record: above-- this was a great post!
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Postby homerunhitter » Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:50 am

Moyer's like fine wine, he just keeps getting better with age. Although the wins were a surprise last year, I don't think he will do considerably worse. Granted he is old, but with his finesse approach, he isn't a big injury risk. Jamie's preparation, insight on hitters, and ability to adjust during a game will help him continue his success this year. Don't forget Seattle's bullpen either.
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Postby The Jury » Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:03 pm

See if you can move him for someone like Andruw or Robb Nen.
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Postby Fantstud » Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:24 pm

This guy gets no respect. In every league he goes late and makes some owner happy with his 20 wins.
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