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Re: Is Papi the biggest/fastest production downfall in history?

Postby Fat Drunk and Stupid » Sat May 30, 2009 4:34 pm

I read that as biggest/fattest... :-b
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Re: Is Papi the biggest/fastest production downfall in history?

Postby JoshExley » Sat May 30, 2009 6:59 pm

Am I the only loser still hanging onto this POS?
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Re: Is Papi the biggest/fastest production downfall in history?

Postby thedude » Sat May 30, 2009 7:16 pm

This was actually not uncommon in aging sluggers prior to the 1990s. Look at Jim Rice, Dale Murphy, ect...
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Re: Is Papi the biggest/fastest production downfall in history?

Postby HOOTIE » Sun May 31, 2009 12:14 am

Carlos Baerga and HoJo dropped of the earth fast.

It has been proven that guys who only hit, but don't run well, or aren't athletic, decline earlier then others. So Hafner, Ortiz fall into this category.
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Re: Is Papi the biggest/fastest production downfall in history?

Postby Havok1517 » Sun May 31, 2009 3:31 am

Richard Hidalgo anyone?
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Re: Is Papi the biggest/fastest production downfall in history?

Postby DaShiz23 » Sun May 31, 2009 6:36 am

Havok1517 wrote:Richard Hidalgo anyone?

True enough!

This is surprising to me anyway. I always felt that Papi was not just a masher, but a great hitter overall. I would have figured he may lose the power, but still be able to put the ball in play and hit the gap once and awhile. I gotta agree with the post earlier, about him still being hurt. The injury may have messed with his mechanics, and even his confidence.
Does anyone see him actually turning it around for maybe one or two years of above average production? Or is the consensus that he is done?
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Re: Is Papi the biggest/fastest production downfall in history?

Postby Ajax » Sun May 31, 2009 11:41 am

His drop off wasn't quite as dramatic as Papi's, but Roberto Alomar took a pretty quick nosedive too.
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Re: Is Papi the biggest/fastest production downfall in history?

Postby HipHipJorge » Sun May 31, 2009 8:05 pm

He is def hurt. If you watch him try to hit inside fast ball, which used to be his money pitch, he cannot even get around on it. I am a die hard Sox fan and agree he may have been on steroids, but roids would not account for this disgusting downfall.

I personally do not see him turning it around this year. He simply has no bat speed and cannot hit oppo. He will play for awhile for what he did for us, and lars has not been playing well. But turn it around? I doubt it %-6 :-t
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Re: Is Papi the biggest/fastest production downfall in history?

Postby BitterDodgerFan » Sun May 31, 2009 8:26 pm

brett boone and andruw jones
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Re: Is Papi the biggest/fastest production downfall in history?

Postby walkoffblast » Sun May 31, 2009 11:43 pm

The roids thing cracks me up. If steroids could make the difference between what papi was before he got hurt (anyone who thinks he is as healthy as he once was is retarded) and what papi has been this year then baseball never had a steroids problem. He is about as bad as it gets this year and was previously one of the top hitters in the game. If steroids could do all that and everyone was taking them how come there were still very few hitters as good as papi was?
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