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Postby ssiknosaj909 » Sat May 30, 2009 12:31 am

I have been asked to join a 14 team, basic 5 x 5 league with 28 roster spots. This is a keeper league where we will apparently keep 20 of our 28 players each year. It is a 5 year league. Our draft will be over the All-Star break weekend this year (first season being 2010) I have been playing fantasy football for 12 years but only baseball the last four or five and I don't claim to be an expert by any means. My team this year is in 9th place. Anyway I wanted to come up with good starting pitching rankings, here if my first copy. I probably need a lot of help with it!

1 Tim Lincecum SF
2 Johan Santana NYM
3 Jake Peavy SD
4 Zach Greinke KC
5 CC Sabathia NYY
6 Dan Haren ARZ
7 Roy Halladay TOR
8 Brandon Webb ARZ
9 Chad Billingsley LAD
10 Cliff Lee CLE
11 Justin Verlander DET
12 Erik Bedard SEA
13 Felix Hernandez SEA
14 James Shields TB
15 Yovani Gallardo MIL
16 Matt Cain SF
17 Josh Beckett BOS
18 David Price TB
19 Adam Wainwright STL
20 John Lackey LAA
21 Aaron Harrang CIN
22 Edison Volquez CIN
23 Matt Garza TB
24 Clayton Kershaw LAD
25 Rich Harden CHC
26 Jon Lester BOS
27 Josh Johnson FLA
28 Francisco Liriano MIN
29 Joba Chamberlain NYY
30 John Danks CWS
31 Ted Lilly CHC
32 Scott Kazmir TB
33 Max Sherzer ARZ
34 Rick Porcello DET
35 Ervin Santana LAA
36 Johnny Cueto CIN
37 Mark Buehrle CWS
38 Carlos Zambrano CHC
39 Javier Vazquez ATL
40 Stephen Strasburg WAS
41 Rickey Nolasco FLA
42 Jered Weaver LAA
43 Kevin Slowey MIN
44 Jair Jurrjens ATL
45 Tommy Hanson ATL
46 Derek Lowe LAD
47 Roy Oswalt HOU
48 Wandy Rodriguez HOU
49 Daisuke Matsuzaka BOS
50 A.J. Burnett NYY
51 Ubaldo Jimenez COL
52 Chris Volstad FLA
53 Madison Bumgarner SF
54 Brett Myers PHI
55 Paul Maholm PIT
56 Phil Hughes NYY
57 Brandon Morrow SEA
58 Trevor Cahill OAK
59 Chris Tillman BAL
60 Chris Carpenter STL
61 Ryan Dempster CHC
62 Chris Young SD
63 Wade Davis TB
64 Jeremy Guthrie BAL
65 Edwin Jackson DET
66 Gil Meche KC
67 Clay Bucholtz BOS
68 Brett Anderson OAK
69 Jeff Niemann TB
70 Neftali Feliz TEX
71 Randy Wolf LAD
72 Fausto Carmona CLE
73 Koji Uehara BAL
74 Justin Masterson BOS
75 Jonathon Sanchez SF
76 Michael Bowden BOS
77 Jordan Zimmerman WAS
78 Scott Baker MIN
79 Ben Sheets FA
80 Gavin Floyd CWS
81 Rich Hill BAL
82 Barry Zito SF
83 Zach Duke PIT
84 David Huff CLE
85 Brian Bannister KC
86 David Bush MIL
87 Aaron Laffey CLE
88 Chin-Meng Wang NYY
89 Ian Kennedy NYY
90 Carlos Carrasco PHI
91 Daniel Bard BOS
92 John Maine NYM
93 Joe Saunders LAA
94 Ian Snell PIT
95 Sean Marshall CHC
96 Dallas Braden OAK
97 Nick Blackburn MIN
98 Kevin Millwood TEX
99 Derek Holland TEX
100 James McDonald LAD
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Re: Starting Pitchers - Keeper League Rankings

Postby Zito is God » Sat May 30, 2009 2:54 am

Half of your guys in the bottom 25 are in the free agency of my 16 team dynasty league. Zito? Laffey? Bannister? No. The list is alright up to where you have Liriano far too high. I don't have time to post my changes to the list, but Derek Holland needs to be a LOT higher and David Huff had to be a joke...
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Re: Starting Pitchers - Keeper League Rankings

Postby sooner711 » Sat May 30, 2009 3:48 am

You completely forgot Cole Hamels...
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Re: Starting Pitchers - Keeper League Rankings

Postby Syfo-Dyas » Sun May 31, 2009 10:36 am

sooner711 wrote:You completely forgot Cole Hamels...

:-? probably he is not top 100 :-D
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Re: Starting Pitchers - Keeper League Rankings

Postby HOOTIE » Sun May 31, 2009 1:30 pm

ssiknosaj909 wrote:I have been asked to join a 14 team, basic 5 x 5 league with 28 roster spots. This is a keeper league where we will apparently keep 20 of our 28 players each year. It is a 5 year league. Our draft will be over the All-Star break weekend this year (first season being 2010) I have been playing fantasy football for 12 years but only baseball the last four or five and I don't claim to be an expert by any means. My team this year is in 9th place. Anyway I wanted to come up with good starting pitching rankings, here if my first copy. I probably need a lot of help with it!

Add Hamels at 10, and drop everyone from there 1 spot
1 Tim Lincecum 1
2 Johan Santana 2
3 Jake Peavy 5
4 Zach Greinke 7
5 CC Sabathia 6
6 Dan Haren 14
7 Roy Halladay 4
8 Brandon Webb 19
9 Chad Billingsley 3
10 Cliff Lee 32
11 Justin Verlander 23
12 Erik Bedard 33
13 Felix Hernandez 20
14 James Shields 24
15 Yovani Gallardo 11
16 Matt Cain 13
17 Josh Beckett 26
18 David Price 9
19 Adam Wainwright 22
20 John Lackey 34
21 Aaron Harrang CIN
22 Edison Volquez 30
23 Matt Garza TB
24 Clayton Kershaw 10
25 Rich Harden 15
26 Jon Lester 22
27 Josh Johnson 11
28 Francisco Liriano MIN
29 Joba Chamberlain 29
30 John Danks CWS
31 Ted Lilly CHC
32 Scott Kazmir 38
33 Max Sherzer 16
34 Rick Porcello 17
35 Ervin Santana 25
36 Johnny Cueto 27
37 Mark Buehrle CWS
38 Carlos Zambrano 28
39 Javier Vazquez 18
40 Stephen Strasburg 21
41 Rickey Nolasco FLA
42 Jered Weaver LAA
43 Kevin Slowey 40
44 Jair Jurrjens ATL
45 Tommy Hanson 36
46 Derek Lowe LAD
47 Roy Oswalt 31
48 Wandy Rodriguez 37
49 Daisuke Matsuzaka BOS
50 A.J. Burnett 39
51 Ubaldo Jimenez COL
52 Chris Volstad FLA
53 Madison Bumgarner 35
54 Brett Myers PHI
55 Paul Maholm PIT
56 Phil Hughes NYY
57 Brandon Morrow SEA
58 Trevor Cahill OAK
59 Chris Tillman BAL
60 Chris Carpenter 8
61 Ryan Dempster CHC
62 Chris Young SD
63 Wade Davis TB
64 Jeremy Guthrie BAL
65 Edwin Jackson DET
66 Gil Meche KC
67 Clay Bucholtz BOS
68 Brett Anderson OAK
69 Jeff Niemann TB
70 Neftali Feliz TEX
71 Randy Wolf LAD
72 Fausto Carmona CLE
73 Koji Uehara BAL
74 Justin Masterson BOS
75 Jonathon Sanchez SF
76 Michael Bowden BOS
77 Jordan Zimmerman WAS
78 Scott Baker MIN
79 Ben Sheets FA
80 Gavin Floyd CWS
81 Rich Hill BAL
82 Barry Zito SF
83 Zach Duke PIT
84 David Huff CLE
85 Brian Bannister KC
86 David Bush MIL
87 Aaron Laffey CLE
88 Chin-Meng Wang NYY
89 Ian Kennedy NYY
90 Carlos Carrasco PHI
91 Daniel Bard BOS
92 John Maine NYM
93 Joe Saunders LAA
94 Ian Snell PIT
95 Sean Marshall CHC
96 Dallas Braden OAK
97 Nick Blackburn MIN
98 Kevin Millwood TEX
99 Derek Holland TEX
100 James McDonald LAD
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Re: Starting Pitchers - Keeper League Rankings

Postby PacmanJr » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:50 pm

johnson is about 5 to 6 spots too low
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Re: Starting Pitchers - Keeper League Rankings

Postby jake_twothousandfive » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:04 am

Forgetting Hamels is a huge oversight.

Apart from that, Edwin Jackson, Cueto and Josh Johnson should all move up. Like someone else said, Liriano is too high. Cliff Lee should move down a few spots. John Maine should be higher than 92...especially with the way their new stadium is playing.
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Re: Starting Pitchers - Keeper League Rankings

Postby REBEL5 AC » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:41 am

In a keeper, Gallardo is a Top 10 and E. Santana is much better than Joba...not even close.
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Re: Starting Pitchers - Keeper League Rankings

Postby woodson_28 » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:58 am

In a keeper league, I would put Billingsley in my top 5. I also agree w/ the above post that Gallardo should be top 10.
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Re: Starting Pitchers - Keeper League Rankings

Postby jake_twothousandfive » Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:39 am

REBEL5 AC wrote:E. Santana is much better than Joba...not even close.


I disagree, I think you've got it backwards. A young, ground ball pitcher with an elite K/9 like Joba has a lot of upside. The only real knock on him is whether or not he can stay healthy pitching 200 innings per year, but Santana is just as much (if not more) of an injury risk.

2008 has been the only great season in Santana's career. Hes been mediocre the majority of the time. And right now he doesn't look healthy -- his velocity is significantly down. IDK, I'm just not convinced.
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