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Kinsler and Rios for Utley and Scherzer?(WHIR)

Postby kidsilk » Wed May 27, 2009 7:02 pm

Mixed league, 10 teams, 6x6 H2H, redraft league. I am currently in 4th place doing pretty well. A guy in my league really wants Utley and offered me Ian Kinsler and Alex Rios for my Chase Utley and Max Scherzer. What do you think, should I pull the trigger, counter or stay put?

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C-Benjie Molina
1B-AGon
2B-Utley
3B-Beltre
SS-Jeter
OF-Braun
OF-Holliday
OF-C. Lee
UTI-Hart
BN-Choo
BN-Taveras
BN-Ortiz
DL-Burrell

SP-Billingsley
SP-Gallardo
SP-Greinke
SP-Beckett
SP-Slowey
RP-Ziegler
RP-Cordero
BN-Maholm
BN-Danks
BN-Scherzer
BN-Lindstrom
BN-Marmol

His Team:

C-Y. Molina
1B-Lee
2B-Kinsler
SSBartlett
3B-Longoria
OF-Granderson
OF-Kemp
OF-Ordonez
UTI-Loney
BN-Rios
BN-Quentin
BN-Hill

SP-Dempster
SP-Wakefield
SP-Harang
SP-Dice K
SP-Parra
RP-Qualls
RP-Gregg
BN-Garland
BN-J. Johnson
BN-Wolf
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Re: Kinsler and Rios for Utley and Scherzer?(WHIR)

Postby bjmacdow » Wed May 27, 2009 7:47 pm

i say no. Rios might get better and Kinsler is, according to yahoo! stat rankings at least, a better player than Utley; but, Scherzer is what makes me not like this. I think he has 10ks in each of his last two starts, both wins. He is a top 10 or 5 pitcher for the past couple of weeks and there is no reason to think he is just a throwaway player in this deal. If you want kinsler, counter with maholm or slowey instead of scherzer in the deal.
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Re: Kinsler and Rios for Utley and Scherzer?(WHIR)

Postby C2ThaLo88 » Wed May 27, 2009 8:00 pm

Really tough call. But I'm leaning towards no as well.

As an Utley owner, I couldn't see ever trading him. He's been hurt and not performing like he usually does, and based on the past Kinsler will reach that point sometime this season. You can afford to trade scherzer with the staff you have, especially in a re-draft and now might be the time to sell after his recent success. Not saying that he's going to be awful from here on out, but I doubt he gets another two 10-K games in the next two weeks. Also, I'm not confident in Rios. We're two months into the season and he's still not reached the numbers we all expected thus far. I would maybe try to swap who he's offering. Maybe shoot for Longoria instead of Kinsler? But then I'm not sure who you could have play at 2B.
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Re: Kinsler and Rios for Utley and Scherzer?(WHIR)

Postby kidsilk » Wed May 27, 2009 8:05 pm

Hmm, I know this is a tough one but anyone else have an opinion? If no, maybe I could counter with Kinsler and Kemp for Utley and Maholm? Would that be much better? This guy really wants Utley so I think he may go for it. Or any other ideas out there?
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Re: Kinsler and Rios for Utley and Scherzer?(WHIR)

Postby saemick » Wed May 27, 2009 8:06 pm

I'm gonna agree with the above posters. W/o regurgitating what was already said, I just have this feeling that Kinsler is gonna get hurt sooner or later & Rios hasn't really been putting up the #'s so far this season. Utley will pick it up, and when he does, I'd want him on my team.

Yes Scherzer can be replaced, but I just don't think this really helps your team enough to pull the trigger.

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Re: Kinsler and Rios for Utley and Scherzer?(WHIR)

Postby kidsilk » Wed May 27, 2009 8:18 pm

Think I could make this counter?:

Kinsler
Longoria
Rios
Bartlett

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Utley
Beltre
Scherzer
Jeter
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Re: Kinsler and Rios for Utley and Scherzer?(WHIR)

Postby C2ThaLo88 » Wed May 27, 2009 8:28 pm

Always worth a shot, but if I were the other owner, I don't think I'd trade away both Kinsler and Longoria
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