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Re: Possible Peavy to White Sox trade (5/21/09)

Postby Curtis Pride » Thu May 21, 2009 11:20 am

Beckham and Viciedo would not be eligible to be traded until they've been under contract with the White Sox for a year.
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Re: Possible Peavy to White Sox trade (5/21/09)

Postby nolanwood » Thu May 21, 2009 11:25 am

Curtis Pride wrote:Beckham and Viciedo would not be eligible to be traded until they've been under contract with the White Sox for a year.



They could be traded as a PTBNL and close the deal within a six month time frame.
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Re: Possible Peavy to White Sox trade (5/21/09)

Postby Old_Style » Thu May 21, 2009 11:26 am

nolanwood wrote:
Curtis Pride wrote:Beckham and Viciedo would not be eligible to be traded until they've been under contract with the White Sox for a year.



Could they be traded as a PTBNL, though?



Yes.
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Re: Possible Peavy to White Sox trade (5/21/09)

Postby Curtis Pride » Thu May 21, 2009 11:35 am

Old_Style wrote:
nolanwood wrote:
Curtis Pride wrote:Beckham and Viciedo would not be eligible to be traded until they've been under contract with the White Sox for a year.



Could they be traded as a PTBNL, though?



Yes.

Technically, yes.

But do you honestly think that San Diego would agree to a trade where the biggest piece would be forced to be under another team's control for three months?

Absolutely not. Zero chance that Beckham is in this deal. None.
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Re: Possible Peavy to White Sox trade (5/21/09)

Postby da bears » Thu May 21, 2009 11:49 am

Wouldn't you highly doubt the Sox would do this deal if they were giving up Richard, Viciedo or Beckham?? That's 2 very good prospects and the whole league knows the Padres want to trade Peavy, they could definitely get him for less and sounds like they did as long as Peavy accepts.
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Re: Possible Peavy to White Sox trade (5/21/09)

Postby dracovonborax » Thu May 21, 2009 12:04 pm

i would think any kind of run support for Jake would be a blessing. I've owned him for 5 years running now in my league and i must say, it gets tiresome watching the lame offense of the Pads give him no love.
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Re: Possible Peavy to White Sox trade (5/21/09)

Postby Old_Style » Thu May 21, 2009 12:04 pm

I don't think there's any chance of Beckham or Viciedo being a part of the potential deal.
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Re: Possible Peavy to White Sox trade (5/21/09)

Postby nolanwood » Thu May 21, 2009 12:04 pm

Curtis Pride wrote:
Old_Style wrote:
nolanwood wrote:

Could they be traded as a PTBNL, though?



Yes.

Technically, yes.

But do you honestly think that San Diego would agree to a trade where the biggest piece would be forced to be under another team's control for three months?

Absolutely not. Zero chance that Beckham is in this deal. None.


What are you arguing about? You said they couldn't be traded, and they CAN.
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Re: Possible Peavy to White Sox trade (5/21/09)

Postby Chicago RedSox » Thu May 21, 2009 12:25 pm

According to mlbtraderumors . com the teams have agreed on a deal:

White Sox, Padres Agree To Peavy Trade
By Cork Gaines [May 21 at 10:11am CST]

10:11am: ESPN's Peter Gammons says Beckham is not part of the deal. CBS' Danny Knobler says it would be Poreda, Richard, and one or two others. The others would also be pitchers, says Knobler. Yahoo's Gordon Edes says the White Sox have agreed to send four pitching prospects including Poreda and Richard.

ESPN's Bruce Levine talked to White Sox pitcher and former Peavy teammate Scott Linebrink, who gave Peavy a 50-50 chance of accepting the deal.

9:39am: MLB.com's Corey Brock and Scott Merkin say Poreda and Clayton Richard are believed to be part of the deal.

9:19am: Jon Heyman says the White Sox and Padres have agreed to a Peavy trade, and await the pitcher's approval. MLB.com's Corey Brock agrees. Ken Williams, always operating under the radar. Now we get to see just how much Peavy hates the AL.

Peavy is owed an additional $8.35MM this year, $15MM in '10, $16MM in '11, $17MM in '12, and a $4MM buyout for '13. Total: $60.35MM guaranteed through 2012. It is surprising to see the White Sox willing to take on such a commitment to a pitcher.

No idea if he's involved, but yes, the Sox could trade Gordon Beckham in this deal as a player to be named later.

9:09am: Via Gonzales on Twitter: "Waiting for approval from Peavy on SD trade, according to source."

6:51am: Tom Krasovic of the San Diego Union-Tribune is reporting that the Padres are in discussions to send Jake Peavy to the White Sox.

According to Padres personnel, Peavy met with Padres manager Bud Black late Wednesday night to discuss a trade overture from the Sox.

It is apparently a four-player offer, which would presumably gut Chicago's farm system. Peavy would have to approve any trade and according to Krasovic Peavy is telling people that the trade is "something to think about." However, Krasovic says Peavy "may have reservations about pitching for Ozzie Guillen."

MLB.com's Corey Brock asked Peavy about the rumor. He said, "I only know what you guys [media] know." Brock expects the Padres would require a frontline pitcher like Aaron Poreda. Scot Gregor of the Daily Herald makes the Poreda link as well, but finds Peavy's contract prohibitive. Mark Gonzales of the Chicago Tribune says the Padres had a scout watching the White Sox last weekend in Toronto. Meanwhile, SI's Jon Heyman says Peavy still prefers the West or Midwest and the NL. Heyman likes the Cubs or Brewers.

Cork Gaines writes for RaysIndex.com and can be reached here. Tim Dierkes also contributed to this post.
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Re: Possible Peavy to White Sox trade (5/21/09)

Postby Curtis Pride » Thu May 21, 2009 1:52 pm

nolanwood wrote:
Curtis Pride wrote:
Old_Style wrote:

Yes.

Technically, yes.

But do you honestly think that San Diego would agree to a trade where the biggest piece would be forced to be under another team's control for three months?

Absolutely not. Zero chance that Beckham is in this deal. None.


What are you arguing about? You said they couldn't be traded, and they CAN.

I said Beckham was not going to be a part of the trade. I said the reason he won't be is because he can't be traded until August. He can't be traded until August. He could be traded as a PTBNL, but that means that he'll have to continue to play in the Chicago organization for three months while his future rests with another organization. Now that's fine for an also-ran prospect, but not one of the best prospects in baseball. There's no way that the Padres are going to make a trade when the best player they'd be receiving will sit with another organization for three months. That's way too much risk of injury to be exposed to.

Regardless, Beckham is not, 100% is not, going to be involved in this trade.

Apparently, since Viciedo signed a major league contract, he could be traded immediately.
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