Detroit @ Minnesota - 2009-05-14 - 01:10 PM EST

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[mac-unit]

Verlander was sent out for an inning to long. He probably would have had similer results if he didn't get taken out. He is an ace but he isn't a good innings eater.

[mtxdevil]

wtf! I go for an hour meeting and I come back to us trailing!

[the izzy]

wow, my opponent had Verlander go today ... 2.84 ERA. That would have been real helpful if he didn't also have J. Broxton (18.00 ERA) and B. Morrow (81.00 ERA) go today as well.

The result:
7.2 IP, 8.22 ERA. But he did manage a QS (Verlander) and a Win (Broxton). It wont help his weekly ERA though, which is already at 11.49 (thanks to B. Morrow, Hochevar and C. Young).

[Urbanist]

Verlander was sent out for an inning to long. He probably would have had similer results if he didn't get taken out. He is an ace but he isn't a good innings eater.

He isn't a good innings eater? He's gone 200 innnings or more his first 3 seasons skippy. He's a workhorse type pitcher with top notch stuff. Yeah he didn't today but maybe you already forgot his last 3 starts?? You know...... one of them being a compltet game shutout???? Whats not an innings eater about that. Could he be more efficent at times sure, but he prolly can go deeper stuff wise than almost any other pitcher in the majors. So I don't get your statement at all. it's wrong on so many levels.

[mac-unit]

Verlander was sent out for an inning to long. He probably would have had similer results if he didn't get taken out. He is an ace but he isn't a good innings eater.

He isn't a good innings eater? He's gone 200 innnings or more his first 3 seasons skippy. He's a workhorse type pitcher with top notch stuff. Yeah he didn't today but maybe you already forgot his last 3 starts?? You know...... one of them being a compltet game shutout???? Whats not an innings eater about that. Could he be more efficent at times sure, but he prolly can go deeper stuff wise than almost any other pitcher in the majors. So I don't get your statement at all. it's wrong on so many levels.

You are looking like an idiot, between making up stats and the mis-spelling of simple words.

In his first full season(2006) he pitched 186 innings. 2007 he pitched 201.2 innings. 2008 he pitched 201 innings. Those are his first 3 years and 2 of them he barely got to 200. You can reach 204 innings by going 6 innings in 34 starts.

His 3 starts before this have gone 7, 7, 9 innings. Good for him to string together 3 good starts but lets not forget about the 4 starts before the good ones where he only went more then 5 innings 1 time and that one time he had 5 ER.

What are you talking about "go deeper stuff wise"? Verlander can't control a pitch count so he may be able to throw 130 pitches but it doesn't mean anything when it is over 6 innings.

[Urbanist]

Verlander was sent out for an inning to long. He probably would have had similer results if he didn't get taken out. He is an ace but he isn't a good innings eater.

He isn't a good innings eater? He's gone 200 innnings or more his first 3 seasons skippy. He's a workhorse type pitcher with top notch stuff. Yeah he didn't today but maybe you already forgot his last 3 starts?? You know...... one of them being a compltet game shutout???? Whats not an innings eater about that. Could he be more efficent at times sure, but he prolly can go deeper stuff wise than almost any other pitcher in the majors. So I don't get your statement at all. it's wrong on so many levels.

You are looking like an idiot, between making up stats and the mis-spelling of simple words.

In his first full season(2006) he pitched 186 innings. 2007 he pitched 201.2 innings. 2008 he pitched 201 innings. Those are his first 3 years and 2 of them he barely got to 200. You can reach 204 innings by going 6 innings in 34 starts.

His 3 starts before this have gone 7, 7, 9 innings. Good for him to string together 3 good starts but lets not forget about the 4 starts before the good ones where he only went more then 5 innings 1 time and that one time he had 5 ER.

What are you talking about "go deeper stuff wise"? Verlander can't control a pitch count so he may be able to throw 130 pitches but it doesn't mean anything when it is over 6 innings.

Sorry i was in a rush responding to your falses statement your highness. I promise this time my grammatical prowess will not disappoint you....


First off, you really show your lack of Justin Verlander anything by not knowing what I mean by going "deeper into games stuff wise". By that I mean velocity and the ability to throw over 100 pitches a ball game much easier than most other starters in major league baseball. Name me one other starter in the majors who can throw 98-99 in the 7,8, or 9 inning at 118 pitches?? This is a guy who can throw 100 plus with ease. Not many in the game can do that.

Second off, you sound like a fool telling me he barely went 200 innings, but the fact that he went 200 innings or more in 3 out of 3 seasons pretty much contradicts yourself. Smooth move xslash. His rookie year he went 180 innings....then add in the post season your well over 200 innings stud boy. You were saying?? Making up stats?? Okay, just like how you contradict yours?

Thirdly, you show your lack of observation and knowledge concerning the games he has pitched thus far. I love how you fail to mention the well documented, by now, horrendous defense that attributed to two of the earlier "horrible" games. I would say that two dropped balls from your outfielder(Anaheim) and 2 consecutive errors during a inning in both the Texas game and Seattle cost him innings and runs. 4 errors contributed to about 20 pitches more thrown each inning those errors occurred. You do the math. One time there were two outs man no one on. Both the Texas and Seattle game he was cruising like he has the past 4 starts before his d completely imploded on him. His only horrible start was the opener vs Toronto. Even you can figure out that those costly errors cost him about 3-5 innings combined in both of those starts and most likely 5-6 less runs. Wouldn't you say since then he has shown that those games were what they were......two-three occurences that have slanted his number negatively and were an aberration????

God forbid Verlander is finally putting it all together........

[mac-unit]

He isn't a good innings eater? He's gone 200 innnings or more his first 3 seasons skippy. He's a workhorse type pitcher with top notch stuff. Yeah he didn't today but maybe you already forgot his last 3 starts?? You know...... one of them being a compltet game shutout???? Whats not an innings eater about that. Could he be more efficent at times sure, but he prolly can go deeper stuff wise than almost any other pitcher in the majors. So I don't get your statement at all. it's wrong on so many levels.

You are looking like an idiot, between making up stats and the mis-spelling of simple words.

In his first full season(2006) he pitched 186 innings. 2007 he pitched 201.2 innings. 2008 he pitched 201 innings. Those are his first 3 years and 2 of them he barely got to 200. You can reach 204 innings by going 6 innings in 34 starts.

His 3 starts before this have gone 7, 7, 9 innings. Good for him to string together 3 good starts but lets not forget about the 4 starts before the good ones where he only went more then 5 innings 1 time and that one time he had 5 ER.

What are you talking about "go deeper stuff wise"? Verlander can't control a pitch count so he may be able to throw 130 pitches but it doesn't mean anything when it is over 6 innings.

Sorry i was in a rush responding to your falses statement your highness. I promise this time my grammatical prowess will not disappoint you....


First off, you really show your lack of Justin Verlander anything by not knowing what I mean by going "deeper into games stuff wise". By that I mean velocity and the ability to throw over 100 pitches a ball game much easier than most other starters in major league baseball. Name me one other starter in the majors who can throw 98-99 in the 7,8, or 9 inning at 118 pitches?? This is a guy who can throw 100 plus with ease. Not many in the game can do that.

Second off, you sound like a fool telling me he barely went 200 innings, but the fact that he went 200 innings or more in 3 out of 3 seasons pretty much contradicts yourself. Smooth move xslash. His rookie year he went 180 innings....then add in the post season your well over 200 innings stud boy. You were saying?? Making up stats?? Okay, just like how you contradict yours?

Thirdly, you show your lack of observation and knowledge concerning the games he has pitched thus far. I love how you fail to mention the well documented, by now, horrendous defense that attributed to two of the earlier "horrible" games. I would say that two dropped balls from your outfielder(Anaheim) and 2 consecutive errors during a inning in both the Texas game and Seattle cost him innings and runs. 4 errors contributed to about 20 pitches more thrown each inning those errors occurred. You do the math. One time there were two outs man no one on. Both the Texas and Seattle game he was cruising like he has the past 4 starts before his d completely imploded on him. His only horrible start was the opener vs Toronto. Even you can figure out that those costly errors cost him about 3-5 innings combined in both of those starts and most likely 5-6 less runs. Wouldn't you say since then he has shown that those games were what they were......two-three occurences that have slanted his number negatively and were an abbreviation????

God forbid Verlander is finally putting it all together........

I show a lack of knowledge because I don't know a term that isn't used? I seen Verlander throw 98 today at 110 pitches and he didn't look good. Also I'd say Sabathia is better at the made up stat of "deeper into games stuff wise".

I'm sorry I based my argument off of the regular season. The Tigers would have been better off without him in that post season anyway.

If it was an error it would be an unearned run. My post only included EARNED runs he allowed. I didn't even mention the Texas game and ERs. I'm very impressed he allowed 1 ER while getting 8 Ks in 5 IP, oh yeah he walked 4 too.

People say guys like Lowe are better real life pitchers then fantasy pitchers. Well, Verlander is a better fantasy pitcher then a real life pitcher.