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Postby Grouperman941 » Wed May 13, 2009 12:58 pm

MLB network commentators have been using the word 'scuffling' as a synonym for 'struggling. They do this every night. I think Billy Ripkin was the first one to do it, and the usage is spreading faster than swine flu -- CBS used it in their player news today.

Is there a definition of scuffling somewhere that means 'struggling' in this context that I had just never heard before? I had never heard it used by sports people this way, either. Does MLB Network have a license to alter the English language in such subtle yet brutal ways?

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Re: Scuffling

Postby Amazinz » Wed May 13, 2009 1:11 pm

Scuffle and struggle have always been synonyms as far as I know?
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Re: Scuffling

Postby mtxdevil » Wed May 13, 2009 1:12 pm

I've heard baseball commentators/(color or play by play) use this for as long as I remember.
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Re: Scuffling

Postby knapplc » Wed May 13, 2009 1:15 pm

mtxdevil wrote:I've heard baseball commentators/(color or play by play) use this for as long as I remember.

As have I. Maybe it's just more prevalent now, so it's more noticeable?
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Re: Scuffling

Postby Grouperman941 » Wed May 13, 2009 1:26 pm

Rally? I had not noticed. Maybe it was regional?

I thought scuffling as a verb = fighting, with a connotation that there is an opponent, so a scuffle = a struggle if struggle is being used as a fight, as in 'no signs of a struggle.'

But struggle, as in struggling to learn algebra or struggling to find his power stroke, IMO, is not synonymous with scuffle. A couple quick dictionary searches seem to back me up, but in English, if an incorrect usage happens often enough, it becomes accepted, so maybe it's just sports culture.

Still surprised i never noticed before, since it's like nails on the chalkboard to me this year.
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Re: Scuffling

Postby knapplc » Wed May 13, 2009 1:31 pm

Scuffle and struggle are synonyms. A quick check of Thesaurus.com agrees.

Scuffle = Struggle
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Re: Scuffling

Postby Amazinz » Wed May 13, 2009 1:33 pm

Yeah and the Oxford dictionary lists scuffle as a short confused struggle (or fight) so...
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Re: Scuffling

Postby Pogotheostrich » Wed May 13, 2009 1:38 pm

I've always heard scuffling used that way.

If we are adding new words to the language I vote for inkle, the verb form of inkling. :-)
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Re: Scuffling

Postby Dan Lambskin » Wed May 13, 2009 1:41 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:I've always heard scuffling used that way.

If we are adding new words to the language I vote for inkle, the verb form of inkling. :-)


inkle sounds like a perfectly cromulent word
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Re: Scuffling

Postby Grouperman941 » Wed May 13, 2009 1:45 pm

knapplc wrote:Scuffle and struggle are synonyms. A quick check of Thesaurus.com agrees.

Scuffle = Struggle


Maybe I'm getting LD in my old age, but I think the link supports what I am saying.
Main Entry: scuffle
Part of Speech: verb
Definition: fight
Synonyms: clash, come to blows, contend, cuff, grapple, jostle, skirmish, struggle, tussle, wrestle
Antonyms: make peace


A struggling batter is not fighting with anyone except maybe himself. A person scuffling is scuffling with another person, in a scuffle.

This is the usage, I think, and scuffle is not listed.

Main Entry: struggle
Part of Speech: verb
Definition: labor, work
Synonyms: assay, attempt, bend over backwards*, break one's back, break one's neck, cope, dig, endeavor, exert oneself, give it one's best shot, give the old college try, go all out, grind, hassle, have one's nose to grindstone, hustle, make every effort, offer, plug, plug away, scratch, seek, slave, strain, strive, sweat, tackle, take a crack, take a stab, take on, toil, try, try one's hardest, undertake, work like a dog
Antonyms: idle, laze, rest
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