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Postby WyldStallyn » Fri May 15, 2009 6:51 pm

HipHipJorge wrote:No Jones. Probs Lars comes up.


not the way he's been hitting so far (.232 avg, .661 ops)
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Postby HipHipJorge » Fri May 15, 2009 7:09 pm

Why not give him a try instead of trading?
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Postby CadensDad » Fri May 15, 2009 7:20 pm

HipHipJorge wrote:Why not give him a try instead of trading?



With the pitching depth they have, I think they could land a solid 1b that can play and produce right now
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Postby Omaha Red Sox » Fri May 15, 2009 7:56 pm

WyldStallyn wrote:
HipHipJorge wrote:No Jones. Probs Lars comes up.


not the way he's been hitting so far (.232 avg, .661 ops)


Yeah, Lars is struggling. I think he's working through some things, but he'll be alright. Probably won't get a call this year though, not unless he really figures it out and really starts mashing again.

I don't know that the Sox have a lot of options because of how beloved Papi is with their fanbase. I mean, you can't sit a figure like that. If you trade him, can you imagine the scrutiny that would follow that player? It was different with Manny/Bay. People fell in love with Bay because they were so disgusted with Manny's antics. Papi's still a class act, he's just not producing like we've gotten used to. They have decent options on the bench and a quality farm system, but I don't see any of those things fixing this anytime soon. He'll just end up being a hole in the lineup for a while. Until he probably, eventually, goes on the DL for whatever reason. You always see these struggling players go on the DL and I end up wondering if there's really anything wrong with them physically or have they just lost it and it's a compromise between the player and team to save face.

For what it's worth, and it killed me saying this, I commented in the Buy Low/Sell High forum that I didn't think Papi was worth buying low because I thought he was done. The wrist injury and the weight were going to catch up to him eventually and it seems to have all at once. Another prospect to think about, though, again, probably not this year like Lars, is Josh Reddick. The guy's been raking in AA (1.002 OPS)and he's the #2 offensive prospect in their system. He's not a Papi-esque player at the plate but if he keeps this up (and considering some of the fragile bats in the lineup), he could see some time before the end of this season.

I like the Chris Carter mention, though he's not going to blow anybody away. Coincidentally, Carter and Reddick each share the same name. Their given names are both William. Little piece of useless trivia there.
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Re: Big Papi is so pathetic this year that...

Postby walkoffblast » Fri May 15, 2009 8:17 pm

As bad as Papi has been the Red Sox would be nuts to give up on him. They need to move him down in the lineup but beyond that time will only tell.
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Re: Big Papi is so pathetic this year that...

Postby HipHipJorge » Fri May 15, 2009 8:36 pm

With the pitching depth they have, I think they could land a solid 1b that can play and produce right now


We do not need a 1B. And Poopi will not be traded. If anything Lars will try to DH. I personally think we will save pitching to get a big name at the break. I am thinkin maybe Matty over in Oakland. Especially if we cannot get a deal done with Bay.
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Re: Big Papi is so pathetic this year that...

Postby CadensDad » Fri May 15, 2009 8:39 pm

HipHipJorge wrote:
With the pitching depth they have, I think they could land a solid 1b that can play and produce right now


We do not need a 1B. And Poopi will not be traded. If anything Lars will try to DH. I personally think we will save pitching to get a big name at the break. I am thinkin maybe Matty over in Oakland. Especially if we cannot get a deal done with Bay.


I don't expect Ortiz to be traded, but the Sox will need someone to step up and hit, Lars hasn't looked that good so far this year.
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Re: Big Papi is so pathetic this year that...

Postby mac-unit » Fri May 15, 2009 8:44 pm

Lars won't come up, and if he does it won't be to DH, they are grooming him to be 1B of the future not be the next DH. I stand by my statement if they call anyone up the first guy would be Carter.
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Re: Big Papi is so pathetic this year that...

Postby bclay » Fri May 15, 2009 8:51 pm

Big Papi is so pathetic this year that even Scott Kazmir could get him out.
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Re: Big Papi is so pathetic this year that...

Postby HipHipJorge » Fri May 15, 2009 8:58 pm

Well since Youk just got put on DL and Papi not startin today....hmmm
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