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Based on my roster would you do this deal?

yes - because you need a 3B upgrade and you pitching is deep
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23%
no - because you are giving up too much value
10
77%
 
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My Beltran/Josh Johnson for M-Cab Poll? WHIR

Postby angels7777 » Tue May 12, 2009 12:07 am

Based on my roster would you do this deal?

I have went back and forth for days with this guy and he absolutely will not budge from this offer - he will not add a quality 2nd player or anything?

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1B Konerko
2B Utley
3B M. Reynolds
SS Reyes
OF Holliday
OF Beltran
OF Grand
UTIL Abreu
BN Thome
BN Beltre
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SP - Oswalt, Gallardo, Vazquez, Cain, Wainwright, Harang, J. Johnson, W. Rodriguez, Slowey, Hanson
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1B- Voto
2B- Zobri
3B- ARam
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OF- J. Uptn, Choo, A. Gordn
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Re: My Beltran/Josh Johnson for M-Cab Poll? WHIR

Postby angels7777 » Tue May 12, 2009 12:30 am

if you vote, at least put your name and the way you voted - thanks
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C- JP
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2B- Zobri
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Re: My Beltran/Josh Johnson for M-Cab Poll? WHIR

Postby The Artful Dodger » Tue May 12, 2009 12:49 am

You should be pushing a tad more value for JJ and so, I'd be inclined to keep it at Beltran/Wandy or Beltran/Slowey for M-Cab alone. If that doesn't get it done, I wouldn't mind Beltran/Cain or Beltran/Wainwright for M-Cab.
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Postby rmd08 » Tue May 12, 2009 12:53 am

hard to exactly say because Cab is on fire but Beltran is also on fire im biased towards beltran tho because i'm a mets fan... plus josh johnson is a pretty decent pitcher... I'd probably hold off on this deal for now
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Re: My Beltran/Josh Johnson for M-Cab Poll? WHIR

Postby s221506 » Tue May 12, 2009 12:57 am

I think you are giving a little over value for Miggy, but not by much. I love doing 2 for 1's when I am getting an elite top tier player. With Hanson and Smoltz you got a shot at another quality starter, but neither will give you what J Johnson will . I think J Upton will be closer to Beltran than Konerko (whose production may fall of the side of a cliff) will Miggy and your pitching depth is solid.

In other words J-Up better than Konerko, Miggy better than Beltran,
and the starting depth to cover the loss of Johnson.

If you can find a closer with the open roster spot, you've done very well for yourself! I say do the trade....


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Re: My Beltran/Josh Johnson for M-Cab Poll? WHIR

Postby jweb2244 » Tue May 12, 2009 2:02 am

I agree you need an upgrade at 3B (I have the same problem in one of my leagues and 3B is a hard position to trade for) and you may have depth to cover the players traded (especially SP), but as much as I like Miggy, I think you are giving up way too much.

It's too bad, because the trade makes sense position wise, and I understand the frustration that the other owner won't add anything, but isn't there another possible trading partner who will give you value for what you are offering? If not, I would wait and see what develops, especially as other owners see their SP may not hold up.

Also, thanks for help on mine.
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Re: My Beltran/Josh Johnson for M-Cab Poll? WHIR

Postby WeTalkinAboutPracticeMan » Tue May 12, 2009 2:05 am

I voted for the trade because you're right that you need an upgrade at 3B, but I'd try pushing for more in return - Beltran is no slouch himself, and his power production is going to be just south of the range that Cabrera is capable of. Josh Johnson, too, is a great pitcher, and his K/BB is absurd right now - but even if you lost him, I feel that the rest of your rotation could absorb the loss. Although I feel you need Cabrera, I can't help but be torn on the issue since it seems you're also giving up too much as well.
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Re: My Beltran/Josh Johnson for M-Cab Poll? WHIR

Postby steveosan » Tue May 12, 2009 2:24 am

I would tell him Beltran/Slowey for M-Cab, final offer. Slowey is no slouch himself. Josh Johnson is too good of a pitcher to give up with Beltran for any one player, no matter how bad you need a 3B.
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Re: My Beltran/Josh Johnson for M-Cab Poll? WHIR

Postby ABA316 » Tue May 12, 2009 10:29 am

Nope..M Cab is best player in the deal but you are letting up too much. Reynolds is serviceable despite the average hit and you need at least some kind of a 2nd player here.
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Re: My Beltran/Josh Johnson for M-Cab Poll? WHIR

Postby travtufts » Tue May 12, 2009 10:46 am

Voted No. I think you're giving up too much, even if Beltran is going to come back down to earth in the next few months. You really would need some pitching in return for this to work for you.

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