Tough veto...collusion?? WHIR Always!!!

[pre1322]

Now, I want to start by saying that I have never been one to veto trades. I'm a firm believer in not vetoing unless in the case of collusion. I just wanted to gather some opinions based on the evidence below on whether this is textbook collusion or not. I believe that bad trades mess with the competitive balance of the league and spit in the face of the work some of us put into building teams, and I want to set it straight. Am I wrong to smell collusion?

THE TRADE:
Team A receives Ryan Braun, Ervin Santana, Brian Wilson
Team B receives Alex Rios, Paul Konerko, Brandon Inge, Jose Valverde

This is a league with some guys from my old high school, and I know for a fact that both of these managers are good friends outside of fantasy. Team A (receiving Braun) has a history of having one-sided trades vetoed due to unscrupulous actions over the three years we have run this league. Team B (trading Braun) didn't come to the draft and hadn't shown activity since he signed up until he suddenly traded Braun out of the blue. Team B also does not benefit from this trade, as it leaves an empty P roster spot and adds to an alread stacked offense, yet felt the need to make it.

Collusion? Should I email the commish or stand pat? Opinions are greatly appreciated, thanks!! Leave your link

[Midnight_Toker]

Now, I want to start by saying that I have never been one to veto trades. I'm a firm believer in not vetoing unless in the case of collusion. I just wanted to gather some opinions based on the evidence below on whether this is textbook collusion or not. I believe that bad trades mess with the competitive balance of the league and spit in the face of the work some of us put into building teams, and I want to set it straight. Am I wrong to smell collusion?

THE TRADE:
Team A receives Ryan Braun, Ervin Santana, Brian Wilson
Team B receives Alex Rios, Paul Konerko, Brandon Inge, Jose Valverde

This is a league with some guys from my old high school, and I know for a fact that both of these managers are good friends outside of fantasy. Team A (receiving Braun) has a history of having one-sided trades vetoed due to unscrupulous actions over the three years we have run this league. Team B (trading Braun) didn't come to the draft and hadn't shown activity since he signed up until he suddenly traded Braun out of the blue. Team B also does not benefit from this trade, as it leaves an empty P roster spot and adds to an alread stacked offense, yet felt the need to make it.

Collusion? Should I email the commish or stand pat? Opinions are greatly appreciated, thanks!! Leave your link

Definitely sounds like a case of collusion to me.

If team B really didn't show any activity until this point and the trade really doesn't benefit him,

then it sounds fishy to me. The trade itself is also weak. Rios and garbage for Braun.

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[diamondllama]

Yep, the trade is a complete mismatch, but the circumstances drive it home. Veto. Collusion.

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[sigriffey]

Hard to say whether collusion or really stupid ... but either way, it is worth the rally cry and investigation by all owners.

[MadDog36]

No veto. Braun is best player in deal. But the rest of the deal is two closers in value are a wash.

A top performing catcher and a lesser OF for an OF upgrade is a nice rip off, or paying from one position to gain an upgrade at another and then Konerko for a good SP whose in rehab right now.

I think this trade should stand.

I see that they are friends. What about having a lot of time to work, go to school, tkae care of family or be a selfish immature kid?

Whatever the reason is, one has more time to dedicate to the league. I'm not a bleeding heart nor a fool, but what your saying is circumstancial. You don't have any hard evidence.

THe trade should stand.

But perhaps you should do some more investigating, and then get back to us.