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Re: best pitching motion?

Postby Yanks_Baby » Tue May 05, 2009 7:43 pm

All time it is without a doubt Sandy Koufax. He understood the physics of pitching before anyone else did.

With regards to getting the most out of a pitch that you can, it's Nolan Ryan. He wasn't as strong as some of the modern flame throwers, but quickly figured out the more compact he made himself in the windup, the more force put behind the ball.

As for the most deceptive, it may be golden age Mariano. The ball would just disappear and reappear in teh catchers mitt.
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Postby Another Blown Save » Tue May 05, 2009 7:44 pm

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Re: best pitching motion?

Postby thedude » Tue May 05, 2009 7:46 pm

kickureface wrote:ic. he's just more whippy?

got confused since he and gallardo have almost the exact same motion, and it was pretty close to krod so i figured it was standard :P


K rod doesn't have what would be considered a "picture perfect delivery" either.

Lincecum delivery is unorthodox and worried some scouts before he came up. But the most important thing for a delivery is that it is repeatable, and Lincecum has no problems with it.

Mark Prior had a delivery that was considered to be very fluid and fundamentally sound. In fact if you were teaching a kid how to pitch from scratch, all things being equal you would want it to look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kFFHYmNcpM . However look what has happened to Mark Prior...
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Re: best pitching motion?

Postby BruinBlue » Tue May 05, 2009 7:57 pm

I've done a fair share of reading on mechanics so I'll throw my 2 cents in there. Basically, most articles I've read acknowledge two "schools" of pitching mechanics. There's "tall and fall" guys that come to a stop at the top of their balance points and drive towards the plate. A classic example of this is Roger Clemens. The newer style is one where guys flow through their balance point and is more geared towards using momentum instead of arm strength. Lincecum is obviously the best example of these mechanics and many people regard his as "perfect" in these terms. The consensus is that the latter style of pitching puts much less stress on the arm and is able to generate more velocity.

Here is a great article breaking down timmy: http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/2008/ ... -lincecum/

here is another one about mechanics in general and is entirely too detailed for the casual fan. It was written by a biomechanical engineer so it's pretty dry but interesting if you're really into it: http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/artic ... mechanics/
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Re: best pitching motion?

Postby MasterX1918 » Tue May 05, 2009 8:36 pm

Another Blown Save wrote:El Duque

He and Hideo Nomo were the kings of deceptive deliveries. I think Omar Daal had kind of a funky delivery.
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Re: best pitching motion?

Postby thedude » Tue May 05, 2009 9:15 pm

MasterX1918 wrote:
Another Blown Save wrote:El Duque

He and Hideo Nomo were the kings of deceptive deliveries. I think Omar Daal had kind of a funky delivery.


As far as funky delivers go, i like El Duce's fellow Cuban Luis Tiant:

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Re: best pitching motion?

Postby Carnac » Tue May 05, 2009 9:54 pm

Luis Tiant had body parts flying everywhere. He was great to watch and also an excellent pitcher. Love to watch Lince pitch. He gets so much torque going, amazing.
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Re: best pitching motion?

Postby Havok1517 » Tue May 05, 2009 9:59 pm

I think Clemens was the best ever and Beckett is the current best.
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Re: best pitching motion?

Postby Saltydog » Tue May 05, 2009 10:30 pm

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Re: best pitching motion?

Postby Steve-o » Tue May 05, 2009 11:10 pm

I am also fairly pitching mechanicly obsessed. Nolan Ryan is a good one. So is Koufax. As far as funky, Dizzy Dean is a fun one.

Here is one of the sites I have bookmarked. It has a number of clips (over 100) of various pitching mechanics. Some of the quality is not the best, but it's fun to look at.
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