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Re: How should Hamels be valued?

Postby Dan Lambskin » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:06 pm

Cole Hamels is really Adam Eaton in disguise
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Re: How should Hamels be valued?

Postby great gretzky » Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:21 pm

Dan Lambskin wrote:Cole Hamels is really Adam Eaton in disguise


Except for a WS MVP.

Snap.
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Re: How should Hamels be valued?

Postby Dan Lambskin » Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:25 pm

great gretzky wrote:
Dan Lambskin wrote:Cole Hamels is really Adam Eaton in disguise


Except for a WS MVP.

Snap.


sorry...i meant for 2009...i'm just waiting for someone to pull a Cole Hamels mask off and reveal Adam Eaton a la Scooby-Doo ...there's just no other explanation for his suck (unless he's been drinking after Jimmy Rollins :-? )
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Re: How should Hamels be valued?

Postby bigh0rt » Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:30 pm

Dan Lambskin wrote:
great gretzky wrote:
Dan Lambskin wrote:Cole Hamels is really Adam Eaton in disguise


Except for a WS MVP.

Snap.


sorry...i meant for 2009...i'm just waiting for someone to pull a Cole Hamels mask off and reveal Adam Eaton a la Scooby-Doo ...there's just no other explanation for his suck (unless he's been drinking after Jimmy Rollins :-? )

It's not that he's been suck, it's just that he's been wildly and frustratingly inconsistent. Two starts after his CGSO at Citi Field, he goes and allows 2 ER in back-to-back starts in Philly against Toronto and Baltimore in Interleague play, and then goes on the Road to Toronto, gives up 4 ER in 4.2, and gets his eyes bashed in in Atlanta for 7 ER in 4 IP, only to come back Home and hold Cinci to 1 Run in 7 innings, and then lets the Bucs tag him for 5 earned in 6 innings... it's like, WTF? He's been a mess on the Road all year, but hasn't been terrible at Citizens, but he's really yet to string together a nice run of good starts in a row at any point this season. As I said, frustratingly inconsistent. :-[
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Re: How should Hamels be valued?

Postby great gretzky » Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:48 pm

Actually, the past issue of Men's Health had a story about him. Won't belabor it, but there were a couple of comments in there about how he didn't turn things down like appearances etc. It's small, but I frequently wonder about that in fantasy. Maybe he didn't bear down on things as much in the off-season or whatever. I also would LOVE to see a study on what fantasy performance is like after getting married. Seems like it would be hard to concentrate to me.
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Re: How should Hamels be valued?

Postby CadensDad » Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:50 pm

I sold him straight up for Fuentes a few weeks back. Pretty happy so far with it
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Re: How should Hamels be valued?

Postby Dan Lambskin » Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:46 pm

bigh0rt wrote:
Dan Lambskin wrote:
great gretzky wrote:
Except for a WS MVP.

Snap.


sorry...i meant for 2009...i'm just waiting for someone to pull a Cole Hamels mask off and reveal Adam Eaton a la Scooby-Doo ...there's just no other explanation for his suck (unless he's been drinking after Jimmy Rollins :-? )

It's not that he's been suck, it's just that he's been wildly and frustratingly inconsistent. Two starts after his CGSO at Citi Field, he goes and allows 2 ER in back-to-back starts in Philly against Toronto and Baltimore in Interleague play, and then goes on the Road to Toronto, gives up 4 ER in 4.2, and gets his eyes bashed in in Atlanta for 7 ER in 4 IP, only to come back Home and hold Cinci to 1 Run in 7 innings, and then lets the Bucs tag him for 5 earned in 6 innings... it's like, WTF? He's been a mess on the Road all year, but hasn't been terrible at Citizens, but he's really yet to string together a nice run of good starts in a row at any point this season. As I said, frustratingly inconsistent. :-[



yeah i guess...just seems like everytime i check the box score it's the suck i remember...hopefully he'll turn it around because no way i can get good value for him now
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Re: How should Hamels be valued?

Postby ivanhack » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:39 pm

Thanks for the article! Great article! ;-D

I am a Hamels owner right now and I really think he's a buy-low candidate right now.

I got the following offers today for him in my leauge:

Kershaw & Fuentes for Hamels
Cueto & Huston Street for Hamels
AJ Burnett for Hamels

Hamels has a 85 to 18 K/BB ratio, as another owner stated in this thread, which is pretty damn good.

Anyway, personally I'm going to ride it out with him unless someone overwhelms me with an offer.

CAVscout wrote:Well consider me a believer (although I may be biased as I do own him in my league), I have heard the news about his changeup being off, but seeing how it's a "feel" pitch I'll gamble that he'll get it back on track in the 2nd half....here's a good article for you to lift your spirits on the guy http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index. ... ine-thanks
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Re: How should Hamels be valued?

Postby Padres Fan » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:22 pm

I think Cole Hamels is more like Scott kazmir, I thought he was overvalued, injury prone in the minors. until he puts up 2 consecutive great years I think the Kazmir comparison will stick.

Oh' I think he would be having a better year if he spent the offseason conditioning instead of touring the contry and hitting every media market to expose himself.
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