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How should Hamels be valued?

Postby haymarket » Mon May 04, 2009 6:33 pm

Thread title pretty much sums it up. I was thinking of making some offers for him, but wasn't sure how to value him. I haven't seen him pitch at all this year, but the lines from his last two starts looked good until they were cut short. Is it foolish to rank him as a top ten pitcher from this point forward, or is this a high risk, high reward situation. Can we expect something similiar to last years stats from here on out?
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Re: How should Hamels be valued?

Postby CadensDad » Mon May 04, 2009 6:51 pm

I'm about 98% sure he will still finish a top 10 pitcher, He value has taken a slight hit but not much
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Re: How should Hamels be valued?

Postby AEMRICH » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:32 pm

what is the deal with Hamels is he still not 100% and just not telling anyone?
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Re: How should Hamels be valued?

Postby smoovethug » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:08 pm

His value is back where it was to begin the season IMO. At the moment there are no lingering injury concerns, the velocity has been back for a month or so now and he's been pitching fine all May minus the start vs. WAS where he simply didn't have his best stuff. His last start against the Dodgers, his best of the season, tells me he is where he needs to be. His K/BB is golden. He got hit around tonight but a lot of the damage came on bloop hits. If you're looking to trade for him I'd do so now because I don't expect his value to go down from here.
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Re: How should Hamels be valued?

Postby pepperoncino » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:18 am

hamels is fine after a slow start to the season (he got started late in spring training). top ten starter. tonight was an aberration.
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Re: How should Hamels be valued?

Postby Bloody Sox » Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:35 pm

Anyone have any new insight/opinion on Hamels? Since the last post in this thread, he has been VERY up and down. I saw some quote from his pitching coach saying he's "lost his feel" for his changeup. Is that all that's wrong?
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Re: How should Hamels be valued?

Postby thejusman1 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:14 pm

Hamels sucks this year. The innings he's pitched in recent years has to be taking a toll. As a Hamels owner myself, I am terrified of starting him against any offense, after his god-awful performances against the mediocre/terrible lineups of ATL and PIT. I hope he's in line for a huge second half, but I just don't see it happening.
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Re: How should Hamels be valued?

Postby Yoda » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:22 pm

I don't think he should be viewed as a top 10 starter right now. Plenty of pitchers have off years and it may apply to Hamels.

I would shop him to see what you could get for him and try to unload him to a believer. His name still has value.
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Re: How should Hamels be valued?

Postby Neato Torpedo » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:26 pm

Bloody Sox wrote:Anyone have any new insight/opinion on Hamels? Since the last post in this thread, he has been VERY up and down. I saw some quote from his pitching coach saying he's "lost his feel" for his changeup. Is that all that's wrong?

If he's lost his changeup, that's pretty damn bad IMO. 8-o That's like saying "oh, Teixeira lost his power, is that all?" He better get it back ASAP. After 23.8 and 16.6 run changeups the last two years, the runs saved by Hamels' changeup this year is exactly 0.0. A 23.8 run drop is pretty alarming given that the change is his bread and butter.

Seriously, in my mind I read his wCH exactly as Dean Wormer read John Belushi's GPA in Animal House.
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Re: How should Hamels be valued?

Postby CAVscout » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:29 pm

Well consider me a believer (although I may be biased as I do own him in my league), I have heard the news about his changeup being off, but seeing how it's a "feel" pitch I'll gamble that he'll get it back on track in the 2nd half....here's a good article for you to lift your spirits on the guy http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index. ... ine-thanks
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