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Re: Red Sox rotation..who's in? who's out?

Postby Bloody Sox » Fri May 01, 2009 6:51 am

auclairkeithbc wrote:
Bloody Sox wrote:I also strongly disagree that the Sox "almost certainly" want to move Wake to the pen this year - I'd say just the opposite.

Talk about a strawman. I never said that. I specifically said that they do not want to move him out of the rotation, but that they almost certainly have considered the possibility of eventually having to move him to the pen this year. I'm pretty sure that is not the case for Beckett, Dice-K and Lester. Seems like you think he is absolutely won't go to the pen, or if he does, it will be a huge shock. I totally disagree with that view.

Apologies... I went back and read your comment on Wakefield and I had mis-read what you were saying as the Sox were planning to put Wake back in the pen this year.
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Re: Red Sox rotation..who's in? who's out?

Postby thedude » Fri May 01, 2009 8:07 am

auclairkeithbc wrote:i don't see the bullpen situation being that tricky. i'm assuming they want masterson in the bullpen, if they don't absolutely need him to start, so that part is pretty settled. then the only question is if they move Wake to the pen, which wouldn't be a huge deal,



The Red Sox have noted several times over the past years that they won't move Wakefield to the bullpen.
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Re: Red Sox rotation..who's in? who's out?

Postby RedSoxNation04 » Fri May 01, 2009 9:11 am

MasterX1918 wrote:I've also heard rumors about them getting rid of Javier Lopez, and tonights game definitly didn't help his case.

Lopez? You mean the lefty specialist who can't get lefties out? Good riddance...that guy comes in and I'm like, oh man, here we go...
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Re: Red Sox rotation..who's in? who's out?

Postby MasterX1918 » Fri May 01, 2009 1:08 pm

RedSoxNation04 wrote:
MasterX1918 wrote:I've also heard rumors about them getting rid of Javier Lopez, and tonights game definitly didn't help his case.

Lopez? You mean the lefty specialist who can't get lefties out? Good riddance...that guy comes in and I'm like, oh man, here we go...

yeah. It would free up a spot on the roster for Smoltz and let them keep Hunter Jones who they like.
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Re: Red Sox rotation..who's in? who's out?

Postby Yoda » Fri May 01, 2009 1:37 pm

Well they shut down Smoltz but they are not saying anything about an injury. They have a lot of options but almost all of them are injury risks at this point so anything can happen.
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Re: Red Sox rotation..who's in? who's out?

Postby WyldStallyn » Fri May 01, 2009 1:53 pm

RedSoxNation04 wrote:
MasterX1918 wrote:I've also heard rumors about them getting rid of Javier Lopez, and tonights game definitly didn't help his case.

Lopez? You mean the lefty specialist who can't get lefties out? Good riddance...that guy comes in and I'm like, oh man, here we go...


last year lefties hit .182 off him. i dont think saying he cant get lefties out is quite fair. he's only pitched 7 innings this year
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Re: Red Sox rotation..who's in? who's out?

Postby RedSoxNation04 » Fri May 01, 2009 2:58 pm

WyldStallyn wrote:
RedSoxNation04 wrote:
MasterX1918 wrote:I've also heard rumors about them getting rid of Javier Lopez, and tonights game definitly didn't help his case.

Lopez? You mean the lefty specialist who can't get lefties out? Good riddance...that guy comes in and I'm like, oh man, here we go...


last year lefties hit .182 off him. i dont think saying he cant get lefties out is quite fair. he's only pitched 7 innings this year

He doesn't instill confidence in anyone when he's out there.
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Re: Red Sox rotation..who's in? who's out?

Postby buffalobillsrul2002 » Fri May 01, 2009 9:14 pm

Lopez is a league-average LOOGY. But yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing the Red Sox get rid of him, just because Hunter Jones has looked really good, and Tito hasn't been using Lopez in true "LOOGY" situations (or at least it doesn't seem he has). In close games he uses Okie, Ramon Ramirez, and sometimes Saito.....
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Re: Red Sox rotation..who's in? who's out?

Postby bigken117 » Sat May 02, 2009 10:27 am

with Saito and Ram Ram as viable 7th and 8th inning alternatives, Tito can use Oki as his LOOGY specialist with Jones around just in case, and give Lopez the boot. I wouldn't miss him neither.
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