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Postby spark0901 » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:12 pm

I know that many people were tempering their expections of this guy, but C'mon. Is it time to hit the panic button witht this guy and deal him away to try and salvage something? It's not that he's just not hitting homeruns, the guy isn't getting very many extra base hits. What's going on?
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Postby LetsGoYankees » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:37 pm

Pointless to try and trade him now, because you won't get much. I'm sure he will eventually start hitting and end up with 25 or so hrs, and around a .300 average...but his sb total is going to be super low in Oakland.
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Postby krunchyfrogg » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:42 am

LetsGoYankees wrote:Pointless to try and trade him now, because you won't get much. I'm sure he will eventually start hitting and end up with 25 or so hrs, and around a .300 average...but his sb total is going to be super low in Oakland.

Why so few steals? Oakland will let guys run if they're effecient, and Holliday is very efficient in this department.

That being said, I saw an offer of Holliday for Ichiro rejected by the Ichiro side.


I've always thought batters switching leagues are at a disadvantage until they get a look at these pitchers. That being said, I expect Holliday to start picking it up a bit later on.
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Postby bazzy_51 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:25 pm

i love reading these threads, yall just need to chill out a bit... we are just over 3 weeks in give it some time, and anyways if you were wanting to trade him cuz of a slow start you may have wanted to do it, hmm 2 weeks ago? you aren't gonna get the value you should be able to get for that player now anyways, so your basically giving players away...
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Postby eneric » Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:50 pm

Bazzy 51 makes a good point. If I have a player who's in a three week or more slump I just suffer through it. By the time you end up trading slumping players they're gonna heat up guaranteed.
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Postby tiggis » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:08 pm

Holiday himself said his swing is a little out of whack and he is working on it.
Something about he is getting the ball too far back to generate power.

The man is a professional hitter - He will still hit 25+ this year dont worry.
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Re: Holliday's slow start

Postby Hit Factory » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:38 am

Once he was traded to Oakland I dropped him on my draft cheat sheet. Playing at Coors Field inflates stats, not to say Holliday isn't a good hitter, he is, but he was not worth an early draft pick. I saw some people having him ranked as a 2nd round pick which is crazy, if drafted accordingly I think he will end up paying off for your team. He will adjust to Oakland's ballpark and should start to hit soon enough. Don't expect many homers, but he should hit for a decent average.
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Postby krunchyfrogg » Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:48 pm

Hit Factory wrote:Once he was traded to Oakland I dropped him on my draft cheat sheet. Playing at Coors Field inflates stats, not to say Holliday isn't a good hitter, he is, but he was not worth an early draft pick. I saw some people having him ranked as a 2nd round pick which is crazy, if drafted accordingly I think he will end up paying off for your team. He will adjust to Oakland's ballpark and should start to hit soon enough. Don't expect many homers, but he should hit for a decent average.
What round, in your opinion, is acceptable to draft Holliday?
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Postby converge241 » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:51 pm

As follow up to the Suzuki-Holliday offer mentioned;

Saw Granderson - Holliday go down today
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Re: Holliday's slow start

Postby Hit Factory » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:13 am

In response to Krunchy:

As I mentioned, I dropped Holliday on my cheat sheet when he dealt to Oakland. Before the trade he was a top tier outfielder, after I had him ranked as the 9th best in baseball. I would have taken him 4th round. I think he will still hit for a nice average, however he will not hit a significant amount of homers, he won't score a lot of runs (the A's offense is non existent) and I highly doubt he will come close to 28 steals again. In my 12 team draft Holliday was taken ahead of Matt Kemp and Manny which is insane.
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