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Re: Jimmy Rollins: Slumping, injured, or just not that good?

Postby The Artful Dodger » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:13 pm

Personally, I didn't think much of Rollins as a late first round pick (Shane Victorino numbers at a premium position and 40 SB is about accurate). Just as I said in my Hot/Cold column [/plug], he's hitting a lot of groundballs currently. Plus, he tends to be more of a second-half hitter. I believe he recoups eventually.
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Re: Jimmy Rollins: Slumping, injured, or just not that good?

Postby poo holes » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:17 pm

Thought I was getting a steal at 12 when I drafted him! Fantasy gods please wake Rollins up!
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Re: Jimmy Rollins: Slumping, injured, or just not that good?

Postby Geek » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:38 pm

sigriffey wrote:I know this is not a trade forum, but would any of you move Rollins for Howard if you had Yunel Escobar to throw into the SS spot?


Depends on if you need his SB's or not. His SB's are his only real fantasy value. Ryan Howard is without question a better fantasy player.
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Re: Jimmy Rollins: Slumping, injured, or just not that good?

Postby ROC AllStars » Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:19 pm

"Not that good" depends on your expectations. If you're expecting a repeat of his MVP year, then no, he's not that good. That was, clearly, a career year in which JRoll put up abnormal HR numbers.

But on the other hand, if you're expecting a solid, top 5 SS, you've got one. The problem is that most people drafted/bought him this year and last based on his MVP numbers. Don't give up too much, but if you can get JRoll at a discount in trade, he is definately worth it. .290-.300/15-20/70-80 with 80-100 are great numbers from the SS spot.
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Re: Jimmy Rollins: Slumping, injured, or just not that good?

Postby walkoffblast » Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:30 am

Even a conservative projection would still give Rollins value of a second round pick. He should not me going mid first but even at reasonable numbers he is easily a second round talent. Problem here is he seems to be changing his game some based on how he is feeling and he is the type to play through a problem versus getting himself right. This often leads to dissapointing numbers.
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Re: Jimmy Rollins: Slumping, injured, or just not that good?

Postby Geek » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:18 pm

walkoffblast wrote:Even a conservative projection would still give Rollins value of a second round pick. He should not me going mid first but even at reasonable numbers he is easily a second round talent. Problem here is he seems to be changing his game some based on how he is feeling and he is the type to play through a problem versus getting himself right. This often leads to dissapointing numbers.


He wasn't a second round talent before 2006. I would bet money that he won't be considered one going into 2010. He's a 4th-6th round talent who had a couple of 1-2 round years.
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Re: Jimmy Rollins: Slumping, injured, or just not that good?

Postby bazzy_51 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:07 pm

i know its only one night, but a bright spot tonight... 3-5 2 Doubles, 1 Run, 1 RBI (should have been 2 RBI but Pedro Feliz is slower then malaise in January)... so just one night but hey hes got a 2 game hit streak also ;-D ... im not overly concerned he will get it figured out hes too good not to, i agree hes not a 1st rounder, but for someone to say hes a 4th-6th rounder your just crazy hes still a top 4, top 5 bare minimum SS in the league...

EDIT: Just scored on Utley's single in the bottom of the 8th giving up 2 Runs, and depending on how the top of the 9th and bottom of 9th go we could see Rollins again as hes due up 6th in the bottom of the ninth...
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Re: Jimmy Rollins: Slumping, injured, or just not that good?

Postby tiggis » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:49 am

His BHIP % is like .100
He is unlucky.. everything he hits goes into a glove.

Bet on a turn around soon and more steals will come when he is on base more.
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Re: Jimmy Rollins: Slumping, injured, or just not that good?

Postby walkoffblast » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:54 pm

Geek wrote:
walkoffblast wrote:Even a conservative projection would still give Rollins value of a second round pick. He should not me going mid first but even at reasonable numbers he is easily a second round talent. Problem here is he seems to be changing his game some based on how he is feeling and he is the type to play through a problem versus getting himself right. This often leads to dissapointing numbers.


He wasn't a second round talent before 2006. I would bet money that he won't be considered one going into 2010. He's a 4th-6th round talent who had a couple of 1-2 round years.


I love how you base your definition of a players talent off of where the masses choose to draft them.

.280 105 runs 65 rbi 36 sb 14 hr from your ss is probably no worse than third round in most player valuation systems.
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Re: Jimmy Rollins: Slumping, injured, or just not that good?

Postby Geek » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:23 pm

walkoffblast wrote:
Geek wrote:
walkoffblast wrote:Even a conservative projection would still give Rollins value of a second round pick. He should not me going mid first but even at reasonable numbers he is easily a second round talent. Problem here is he seems to be changing his game some based on how he is feeling and he is the type to play through a problem versus getting himself right. This often leads to dissapointing numbers.


He wasn't a second round talent before 2006. I would bet money that he won't be considered one going into 2010. He's a 4th-6th round talent who had a couple of 1-2 round years.


I love how you base your definition of a players talent off of where the masses choose to draft them.

.280 105 runs 65 rbi 36 sb 14 hr from your ss is probably no worse than third round in most player valuation systems.

That's almost exactly what Shane Victorino did last year, and he was #51 according to Yahoo. And Victorino batted .293
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