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Kemp/N Cruz/PTBNL for Teixeira - WHIR

Postby labardo31 » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:52 pm

16 team true Dynasty league, keep all 25 big leaguers and a 5-man minor league squad.

I just acquired Joey Votto, and I have a resurgent Hafner at my lone util spot.

My outfield currently consists of Jermaine Dye, Brad Hawpe, Jay Bruce, Denard Span, and Ryan Spilborghs.

I certainly plan to try and move Hafner before I do Teixeira, but this offer may work for me. It'll help youthenize my roster, while giving me some much needed speed (95% of my speed is coming from Ian Kinsler).

So the official offer is:

I send Mark Teixeira

I receive Matt Kemp, Nelson Cruz, and a PTBNL (likely a setup guy or a minor leaguer).

Thanks in advance, and leave a link if you'd like an opinion on an issue of your own.


For reference, my roster is:
C - Dioner Navarro
1b - Mark Teixeira, Joey Votto
2b - Ian Kinsler
ss - Michael Young
3b - Evan Longoria
OF - Dye, Hawpe, Bruce, Span, Spilborghs
DH - Pronk
SP - Greinke, Lowe, Gallardo, Jurrjens, Slowey, Sheets, Myers, Hughes, Carpenter
RP - Brad Lidge, Ramon Ramirez (Bos), Justin Masterson, Jason Frasor
Minors - Desmond Jennings, Madison Bumgarner, Brett Wallace, Michael Inoa, Max Ramirez
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Re: Kemp/N Cruz/PTBNL for Teixeira - WHIR

Postby angels7777 » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:55 pm

tough call... I like Tex best here, although I love Kemp too.... Cruz looks good this year, but not 100% convinced on him...

I would probably play it safe here and keep Tex
If you are into risks and upside, take the other side though

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Re: Kemp/N Cruz/PTBNL for Teixeira - WHIR

Postby RDD15 » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:59 pm

The thing that jumps out to me here is the player to be named. Using PTBNL doesn't really work in fantasy baseball. The reason that MLB teams can do the PTBNL is that most of the time there is an agreement set forth before the trade is made either on exactly who the player is, or a list of players that the team receiving the PTBNL will be able to choose from by a certain date.

For the record, I think that the deal is probably a winner for you. I think that Kemp takes the leap this year and is drafted solidly in the second round next year, and Cruz has a great chance to be a top-5 round guy too. Both of those guys are younger than Tex (at least i think that is the case without doing research). In your keep 25 system, that is another big plus.

But again, PTBNL in fantasy is fail.
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Re: Kemp/N Cruz/PTBNL for Teixeira - WHIR

Postby labardo31 » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:30 pm

i'm only using the PTBNL term in the relative sense. we have both initially agreed upon the three main players, teix, kemp/cruz....and the other manager knows hes going to throw in another player, likely going to be grant balfour or kyle mcclellan.
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Re: Kemp/N Cruz/PTBNL for Teixeira - WHIR

Postby michaelyoung4prez » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:41 pm

Well I am super bias here, I hate Teixsellout, formerly Tex and I like Kemp and obviously love Cruz. This would do wonders to your OF so I say take it
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Postby sreill » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:48 pm

It is a tough call, but it does give u youth and speed. If Cruz turns out to be the real deal.


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Re: Kemp/N Cruz/PTBNL for Teixeira - WHIR

Postby wino1618 » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:57 pm

I like Kemp a lot...I see him as a Sizemore clone offensively...maybe a few less HR, but better batting average. By virtue of it being a keeper league, I like the Kemp/Cruz side of it much, much more. Cruz took a while to arrive, but his power is real. Regardless of his average, that still has value, and you can surround him with high-avg guys to offest it. Any idea who the PTBNL will be?

Non-fantasy rant: I'm a Ranger fan, and I can't hate on Teix. He was all business while in Arlington, and everyone knew he was due a big payday eventually (he only fell to the Rangers in the draft to begin with because he was a Boras client), and the Yanks were willing to give it to him. How's that been working out for them this decade? Lucky for us, Atlanta was willing to pay a big price to make a pennant puch. Without Tex leaving, there is no Elvis Andrus, Salty or Neftali Feliz. I'd rather build through scouting, development and the draft than throw insane cash at guys who will be on the downside of their prime for the last half of their contract.

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Re: Kemp/N Cruz/PTBNL for Teixeira - WHIR

Postby michaelyoung4prez » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:01 pm

wino1618 wrote:How's that been working out for them this decade? Lucky for us, Atlanta was willing to pay a big price to make a pennant puch. Without Tex leaving, there is no Elvis Andrus, Salty or Neftali Feliz. I'd rather build through scouting, development and the draft than throw insane cash at guys who will be on the downside of their prime for the last half of their contract.


Major touche to this but Teixsellout is still a piece in my book. He was becoming a brat and a locker room poison before the trade. That trade looks to be turning out great and a lot better than Soriano for Brad Wilkerson, one of the worst
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