Would you do any of these trades if you were me? Not a keeper league, sportsline gold H2H points not categories.
Trade 1 I Get ·Hill, Aaron 2B TOR ·Ordonez, Magglio RF DET ·Reyes, Jose B. SS NYM ·Zambrano, Carlos SP CHC
I Give ·Jeter, Derek SS NYY ·Nathan, Joe RP MIN ·Utley, Chase 2B PHI ·Wells, Vernon CF TOR
Trade 2 I Get ·Cano, Robinson 2B NYY ·Loney, James 1B LA ·Pujols, Albert 1B STL ·Sanchez, Anibal SP FLA ·Swisher, Nick CF NYY
I Give ·Cabrera, Miguel 1B DET ·Hernandez, Felix SP SEA ·Pence, Hunter RF HOU
My Team
Batters
McCann, Brian C ATL Cabrera, Miguel 1B DET Utley, Chase 2B PHI Figgins, Chone 3B ANA Jeter, Derek SS NYY Ellsbury, Jacoby CF BOS Pence, Hunter RF HOU Wells, Vernon CF TOR Lee, Derrek 1B CHC
Active Pitchers
Beckett, Josh SP BOS Cain, Matt SP SF Hernandez, Felix SP SEA Maholm, Paul SP PIT Weaver, Jered SP ANA Fuentes, Brian RP ANA Nathan, Joe RP MIN
Reserve Batters
Drew, J.D. RF BOS Francoeur, Jeff RF ATL (dropping for either Cantu or Davis 3B) Hafner, Travis DH CLE
Reserve Pitchers
Ryan, B.J. RP TOR Wilson, Brian RP SF
Last edited by justink15 on Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:26 am, edited 1 time in total.
I jump on trade 1. Such an upgrade at SS, and Reyes is easy to shop if you need to upgrade something else later on. Sucks dealing Utley, but I think people jump on him too fast.
Hey man, if I were you I would not be looking to make any blockbuster trades so early in the year, players haven't even started hitting yet. Also, your team is really solid don't shake things up so much with a huge trade, especially this early in the year. The only area I think you should look to improve would be your outfield its lacking power. I would look to deal Derrek Lee, big name player who is on the decline. Trade #1 I would not do, the dropoff between Utley and Hill is too great, Nathan is much more valuable than Zambrano, Wells and Magglio Ordonez are very similar, Reyes is better than Jeter but the other players involved make it totally unfair. Trade #2 is better, I would strongly consider it. This is how I look at it, Cabrera and Pujols are a wash (Pujols is better but not enough to make a huge difference,) Felix is better than Anibal Sanchez, Pence is better then Swisher but its close. You are gaining Loney and Cano for basically nothing.
Those are both huge deals.....I would actually consider #1, I don't think the drop off to Hill will be as large as some think. Hill was ranked in top 7 2B )offensively) last year before getting a concussion - 50 games into the season. He is back with a vengence this year and expect him to elevate himself into Top 5 talks. As for Mags and VW, pretty even - tho as a Jays fan hope VW keeps up his hot start. You lose Nathan for a declining , IMO, Zambrano but you can always move him to a Cubs fan later on. And Reyes is heads above Jeter (overrated IMO as he plays for the Yanks and the only reason he is valued so high) mediocre power numbers, good avg., not a lot of BB, mid range RBI.
LOL Elsy, you should try and be objective when giving advice. You should try and put your team allegiance aside and recognize the HUGE difference between Chase Utley and Aaron Hill. That being said Nathan>Zambrano, Magglio=Wells, and yes Reyes is much better than Jeter. So he is is basically giving up everything in order to gain the difference between Reyes and Jeter, totally not worth it!
Hit Factory wrote:LOL Elsy, you should try and be objective when giving advice. You should try and put your team allegiance aside and recognize the HUGE difference between Chase Utley and Aaron Hill. That being said Nathan>Zambrano, Magglio=Wells, and yes Reyes is much better than Jeter. So he is is basically giving up everything in order to gain the difference between Reyes and Jeter, totally not worth it!
My objectivity is fine. I would say the same thing if I weren't a Jays fan, or if Hill wasn't a Jay. Has nothing to do with it. All I said is that the difference by the end of this season between Utley and HIll is not going to be as substantial as you think it is. Yes, obviously Ultey right now is ahead of Hill but read what I said, Hill will elevate his game and get his numbers up there with the like of Utley, Pedroia and other elite 2B.
I guess you are entitled to your opinion, but then how could you say that the difference between Jeter and Reyes is going to be that huge? It's the same thing, I have Hill on my team and I think he is a talented player, but he won't keep this up for the whole season and Chase Utley is a first round, All-Star player who has shown he can play at this high level year in and year out.
This is only Hill's 3rd full season and shown that he can hit the ball out of the park and drive in runs. 17HR 78RBI .291 average in his 2nd full season is pretty good. He was on his way to eclipsing all those when he got a concussion in '08. He can hit and he will hit, yes that is my opinion but I have also followed his progression and have watched him play for the last 3 years almost every game of the season, that he has played.
Yes, the 2 extra years are an advantage to Chase, however it wasn't until his 3rd full season that he broke out and became the force that he is now. Also they had similar numbers their first 2 seasons, not saying Hill will become a 30+HR 100RBI guy but prolly an extremely high chance of being 20-25HR and 85-95 RBI which isn't that much of a fall off. Averages will be around the same plus Hill will get a few extra SB's but not as many BB.
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by justink15 » Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:32 am 
