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Postby AussieDodger » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:50 pm

Why the ____ does he have to pitch consecutive starts of 113, 112 and 111 pitches?

Using a SP as injury prone as Millwood like this is a little stupid (if you use 105+ as the danger zone like I do).

Today he could have been stopped at 100 or less, as the Rangers were behind 2-0. Who gets glory from a complete game loss?
His next start is either @ Bal or @ Tor, I think he could either have a fatigue-inspired meltdown that game, or (hopefully) be pulled after 80-90 pitches.

After that he starts facing teams in his own division, and if he's still fit :-L :-L :-L .
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Postby KCollins1304 » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:53 pm

Trusting the Rangers bullpen would be stupid.
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Re: Kevin Millwood off to hawt start, but...........

Postby AussieDodger » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:55 pm

KCollins1304 wrote:Trusting the Rangers bullpen would be stupid.


They have 1 good reliever :-b

Doesn't mean you grind your SP into the ground. :-C
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Postby Steve-o » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:16 pm

AussieDodger wrote:Why the ____ does he have to pitch consecutive starts of 113, 112 and 111 pitches?

Using a SP as injury prone as Millwood like this is a little stupid (if you use 105+ as the danger zone like I do).


Why are you using 105 pitches as a danger zone? For PAP it's 101, but it really doesn't start adding up quickly until you get to the 115-120 range. Other theories base overwork on IP increases, but they are designed to protect young guys being overworked, not 34 year-olds.

I would argue number of pitches really doesn't come into play for a guy like Millwood, even with the injury history, until you get to 120+ level.
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Postby BitterDodgerFan » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:16 pm

its the nolan ryan affect. he wants SPs to pitch more and go deeper in games.
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Postby silverZ » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:22 pm

I guess they want to get all the solid innings they can out of him before he turns back into Kevin Millwood
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Re: Kevin Millwood off to hawt start, but...........

Postby AussieDodger » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:23 pm

Steve-o wrote:
Why are you using 105 pitches as a danger zone?


I read somewhere ages ago that the (Theo GMed) Red Sox did a study where they found 105 was the mark where SP get a lot worse + have a higher risk of injury. Sorry can't remember where.
I thought if that's good enough for Theo, it's good enough for me :-b
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Postby AussieDodger » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:24 pm

BitterDodgerFan wrote:its the nolan ryan affect. he wants SPs to pitch more and go deeper in games.


Oh so it was an "In my day" decision.
Great. :-P
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Re: Kevin Millwood off to hawt start, but...........

Postby J35J » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:30 pm

Its only a matter of time before he starts giving up alot of runs. He didn't look very impressive at all tonight against KC but managed to get out of alot of it, probably mostly thanks to the KC hitters themselves. He really only works with his fastball and curve. His fastball is terribly average in which he tends to keep thigh to waist high most of the time. His curveball is nice but overall I'm going to assume as soon as it starts to warm up more his home games will be frightening.
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Re: Kevin Millwood off to hawt start, but...........

Postby KCollins1304 » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:30 pm

AussieDodger wrote:
BitterDodgerFan wrote:its the nolan ryan affect. he wants SPs to pitch more and go deeper in games.


Oh so it was an "In my day" decision.
Great. :-P


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