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Another Reason to Hate the Yankees

Postby Dan Lambskin » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:35 am

Man sues Yankees over 'God Bless America' ejection

If you recall a story about a man who got kicked out of Yankee Stadium last August for moving from his seat during the playing of "God Bless America," you also might recall saying the following to yourself: "Well, that sounds like a lawsuit."

Well, Nostradamus, your vision has come to pass.

Backed by New York State's Civil Liberties Union, Bradford Campeau-Laurion is suing the Yankees and the NYPD for throwing him out of the game. He claims to be a victim of political and religious discrimination.

Campeau-Laurion, a 30-year-old resident of Astoria in Queens, said he wanted to use the restroom and didn't feel like waiting for the Kate Smith standard to end. Fans are required to do as per Yankee Stadium rules. Shortly after getting up from his seat, his version of the story goes, security confronted him.

"I then said to [one], 'I don't care about God Bless America. I just need to use the bathroom,' " Campeau-Laurion told New York's CBS-TV affiliate last August. "As soon as I said that, he immediately pinned my arm behind my back." He soon was ejected.

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are you freaking kidding me? this is quite possibly the most ridiculus "rule" i have ever heard. people should have the right to do whatever the hell they want during a song (within the confines of the law of course...and not silly Yankee Law)
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Re: Another Reason to Hate the Yankees

Postby KCollins1304 » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:48 am

I had no idea that it was a stadium rule that you had to stay seated for God Bless America. :-b
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Re: Another Reason to Hate the Yankees

Postby Matthias » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:15 am

So from further down in the article....

"The officers observed a male standing on his seat, cursing, using inappropriate language and acting in a disorderly manner while reeking of alcohol and decided to eject him rather than subject others to his offensive behavior," Browne said.

Of course, the officers observed 60,000 other people who matched the same description.
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Re: Another Reason to Hate the Yankees

Postby ayebatter » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:44 am

KCollins1304 wrote:I had no idea that it was a stadium rule that you had to stay seated for God Bless America. :-b



I hear they're going to make it Wang's intro song. :-b
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Re: Another Reason to Hate the Yankees

Postby AussieDodger » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:49 am

ayebatter wrote:
KCollins1304 wrote:I had no idea that it was a stadium rule that you had to stay seated for God Bless America. :-b



I hear they're going to make it Wang's intro song. :-b


Viagra isn't enough? ;-7



I think Jee-tor and GheyRod are enough of a reason to hate the Yankees, this is just overkill. :-t
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Re: Another Reason to Hate the Yankees

Postby Art Vandelay » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:55 am

I think this particular rule is dumb, and if I ever wanted to move to New York, become a Yankees fan, and get season tickets, I'd certainly let the organization know how I felt about it, but I support the Yankees being able to make rules regarding fan conduct inside Yankee Stadium. The Yankees aren't the government. This isn't a free speech issue. It's a stupid guy against a stupid rule.
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Re: Another Reason to Hate the Yankees

Postby ayebatter » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:00 pm

Art Vandelay wrote:I think this particular rule is dumb, and if I ever wanted to move to New York, become a Yankees fan, and get season tickets, I'd certainly let the organization know how I felt about it, but I support the Yankees being able to make rules regarding fan conduct inside Yankee Stadium. The Yankees aren't the government. This isn't a free speech issue. It's a stupid guy against a stupid rule.


For any that reside in NYC, I propose that before 'God Bless America' starts, everyone leaves their seats and goes to the restrooms/concessions. That aughta end it. :-D
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Re: Another Reason to Hate the Yankees

Postby Matthias » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:07 pm

ayebatter wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:I think this particular rule is dumb, and if I ever wanted to move to New York, become a Yankees fan, and get season tickets, I'd certainly let the organization know how I felt about it, but I support the Yankees being able to make rules regarding fan conduct inside Yankee Stadium. The Yankees aren't the government. This isn't a free speech issue. It's a stupid guy against a stupid rule.

For any that reside in NYC, I propose that before 'God Bless America' starts, everyone leaves their seats and goes to the restrooms/concessions. That aughta end it. :-D

The whole thing is insufferable anyways. It's bad enough that the Yankees feel annointed to spread the word of, "God Bless America" but to have to listen to it every game it has no meaning. At least the last couple of years they've taken to piping it in instead of having whoever it was sing it at every game. He'd take a good 7 minutes.
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Re: Another Reason to Hate the Yankees

Postby Madison » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:54 am

Just random thoughts...

If the guy had left off the quip about the song and simply said he had to go to the restroom and left it at that, I doubt there would have been any problems. Unless of course someone believes that in all the time the Yankees have been doing this (since the 9/11 attacks, since that's what this is a memorial and rememberance time for) that no one has ever had to go to the restroom during the song of course. So there's more to the story than what we're being told.

But it would be boring to leave it at that, so.... :-b

Why is this guy so special that his rights are more important than the rights of everyone else's around him along with his rights being more important than the rights of the owner of the establishment? I mean if he's got the right to disturb people during this time of remembrance, don't those same people have the right to have that time of remembrance without distraction or interruption? The owner says they can and do, so why does this guy's rights override everyone else's?

As to it "having no meaning", that's horse pucky to say it nicely. :-b People talk to the God of their choice every single day of their lives. Does that make each conversation meaningless? When you think of the 9/11 attacks, is that meaningless to you? How about for those who live in New York? Think it's meaningless to them each time they think of the attacks? Not to mention that this guy says he didn't know the rule, which means it's the first game he's been to since the attacks. How many others were doing and experiencing this for the first time (meaning it had meaning)? Yankee tickets aren't cheap. ;-) So yes, it certainly has meaning.

The biggest thing for me is that the guy has chosen to sue now. This far after the fact. And while he didn't know about the rule, he certainly knows the rule now and what that rule represents. For those that didn't read the article:

The Yankees started playing the iconic tune during the seventh inning in the wake of the 9-11 terrorist attacks in 2001, a national horror that affected many New Yorkers in even greater fashion. The team added the rule by mid-October of that year, after some fans complained that others were failing to observe the moment with peace and quiet.


So this guy is giving a big middle finger to all those that died and all those who's lives were affected by the terrorist attacks of 9/11 by suing over it at this point, and I flat don't see how anyone can agree with this guy. If he doesn't like the rule, fine, no biggie, that's his right to disagree with it. Send a letter, boycott the Yankees, go to Mets games instead, watch on TV, or whatever else, but his rights do not override everyone else's rights. His self-entitled attitude is sickening.

If he wanted to make headlines, he should have taken out a full page ad in all the papers and apologized for taking away the rights of those who were disrupted by his poor behavior.
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Re: Another Reason to Hate the Yankees

Postby Matthias » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:11 am

Madison wrote:Just random thoughts...

As to it "having no meaning", that's horse pucky to say it nicely. :-b People talk to the God of their choice every single day of their lives. Does that make each conversation meaningless? When you think of the 9/11 attacks, is that meaningless to you? How about for those who live in New York? Think it's meaningless to them each time they think of the attacks? Not to mention that this guy says he didn't know the rule, which means it's the first game he's been to since the attacks. How many others were doing and experiencing this for the first time (meaning it had meaning)? Yankee tickets aren't cheap. ;-) So yes, it certainly has meaning.

Horse pucky, eh? Sorry, Mad.... I live in NYC, I go to Yankees games, I've sat through this crap. It has no meaning. Don't give me your conjecture, "I'm going to ignore the facts but create a reality that fits them." And I've been to Yankees games since 2001, probably two dozen of them, and I can tell you that I didn't know this rule of the Yankees, so it's very possible that he's been to other games since then as well.

As far as the timeliness of his suit, pfah. It takes forever to get crap together. The article doesn't say if the suit was just filed, if the parties attempted any type of negotiation before it was filed, or if there has been pre-litigation discovery going on, or anything. So it's pretty ridiculous to say that him filing his suit 7 months after the occurrence is, "far after the fact." It really isn't. And that is a fact. Besides, who knows? For all we know, the ACLU was waiting until Opening Day to see if the Yankees were going to continue the policy because if they were seeking a change to the rule, their suit would be voided for mootness if the Yankees changed their policy for 2009.
Madison wrote:So this guy is giving a big middle finger to all those that died and all those who's lives were affected by the terrorist attacks of 9/11 by suing over it at this point, and I flat don't see how anyone can agree with this guy. If he doesn't like the rule, fine, no biggie, that's his right to disagree with it. Send a letter, boycott the Yankees, go to Mets games instead, watch on TV, or whatever else, but his rights do not override everyone else's rights. His self-entitled attitude is sickening.

What "right" of everyone else's is he overriding? Please name it.

Also, wanting to leave your seat in the middle of a meaningless rememberence is hardly giving a finger to everyone who has died. That's just crazy talk.

Do I agree with the merits of this guy's lawsuit? No, not really. I don't think it violates his religious or political beliefs to have him keep his seat in his seat. But I do think the little "tribute" that the Yankees do every game is devoid of meaning and I've never paid attention, but I'd be pretty shocked if everyone stayed in their seat for it... I've certainly never paid any attention to it one way or another. But as far off base you think this guy is, your evaluation of his situation is about 5 times further.
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