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H2H bench

Postby kickureface » Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:49 pm

in a standard h2h yahoo league, what is commonly filled up in the bench? back up hitters such as OF, SS 1-3? or should i stack it with starting pitchers/ stream spots?
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Keep: 1IF, 1OF, 1SP, 1RP
R, HR, RBI, AVG, SB, BB, K, 1B, 2B, (3B, E, GS)
W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP, BB, HLD, IP, QS, (L, BS, CG)

C: Montero
1B: Teix
2B: Roberts
3B: Longoria
SS: Nishioka
LF: Holliday
CF: Rios
RF: Bruce
OF: Pence
IF: Kila
Util: Raburn
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Re: H2H bench

Postby Big League Chew » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:55 am

I tend to prefer having specialist on the bench in my offense (guys with power or speed). Then I think that the ideal is to have more pitchers on the bench. However, I like to pick up players who are hot and trying to trade them. Last year I picked up Chris Davis, and I'm still smiling about that one because I'm in a keeper league. I'm not a big fan of stocking up on players on the bench for hitting. If you're behind in SB then play your speed guy. I tend to like OF on my bench or guys with multiple position eligibility. Sometimes you can trade and upgrade a player on your team then pick up a speed guy off the FA. I hope that this helps.
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Re: H2H bench

Postby kickureface » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:24 am

so if u have 6 spots, ud pick a speed guy, a power guy, and ~4 SP?
12x23
Keep: 1IF, 1OF, 1SP, 1RP
R, HR, RBI, AVG, SB, BB, K, 1B, 2B, (3B, E, GS)
W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP, BB, HLD, IP, QS, (L, BS, CG)

C: Montero
1B: Teix
2B: Roberts
3B: Longoria
SS: Nishioka
LF: Holliday
CF: Rios
RF: Bruce
OF: Pence
IF: Kila
Util: Raburn
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Re: H2H bench

Postby Big League Chew » Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:27 pm

Sorry for the wait. But yeah that's about right to me. I typically do not like trying to play matchups with my offense. I want to get the best lineup I can then have 1 or 2 specialists that I can have if I'm down in say HR or SB. If you have depth in pitching then you can not start guys when they play a team with crazy hitting. The ideal is not to have to change your hitting lineup, but only for days that have only a few guys playing and when you need a specific stat. I hope that this helps.
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Re: H2H bench

Postby lane_anasazi2 » Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:51 am

The thing about having hitting "specialists," though, is that the only category that this is true for is SB. For AVG, HR, RBI, and R, guys who are giving you a lot of 1-4 of those categories should be everyday starters anyway. I mean, I guess a guy like Dunn is a "HR specialist," but you're not going to bench him during the week and start him if you're down in HR, right? There are, though, guys like Bourn who are going to to steal bases consistently but not help much in the other categories.

The problem with owning guys like this, though, is that by the time you're in a position to know that you're down in SB, it's too late for them to make a consistent difference. I'm thinking Thrusday/Friday is the day you're going to want to evaluate, and sure, if you're down by 1 SB or tied, then plugging in Bourn for Sat/Sun might just win you the category. But how often does this happen? More likely you're either +/- at least a couple, and even if he does swipe a couple bags it won't matter. Another problem is that speedy guys tend to steal bags in bunches. It's not like guys who steal 60 bags steal once every three games or something. Their game logs are way more up and down. They won't steal for 4 games, then they'll steal 3 in a game or something.

So what happens is that you need a perfect set of circumstances for a bench hitter to be effective. You need to be tied or close in the category, and then you need that player to make a contribution in a small amount of time. In my opinion, that's not worth a bench spot.

Having bench hitters is kind of a waste, in my opinion. If your entire bench is SP, they can ALL play during the week, if you want them to. I like to draft a bunch of high risk/high reward pitchers in the later parts of the draft, guys like Randy Johnson and Max Scherzer.

The only way having a bench hitter be a real asset is if you've got one or two very volatile hitters that you need to back up. The best example of this is Chipper Jones. If you draft Chipper, it's almost a requirement that you draft another 3B in the later rounds to back him up, because he is going to miss games.
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Re: H2H bench

Postby Motown Blues » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:11 am

Having bench hitters is kind of a waste, in my opinion. If your entire bench is SP, they can ALL play during the week, if you want them to. I like to draft a bunch of high risk/high reward pitchers in the later parts of the draft, guys like Randy Johnson and Max Scherzer.


In H2H, this above is what I believe. Don't waste bench spots on bats that won't play. You toil over who to put in, then kick yourself for NOT playing him. Stash SP's away for weekly starts and roll with a solid lineup that remains static all week (Exceptions? For me, Jimmy Rollins had to be replaced with a Jhonny Peralta until he returned to the lineup. Or David Ortiz's slump had to be waited out by a substitute Todd Helton).
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Re: H2H bench

Postby yearbend » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:44 am

i usually have a backup OF and a guy who has multiple infield position eligibility (right now its clint barmes) and the rest i put on pitchers. i also try to get 5 closers through the FA, however i only draft 2 of them.
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