Berk,Ortiz,Atkins,E. Santan for Howard,Holiday,Valverde WHIR

[philaphan]

WHIR!!!!!!

Okay here is the deal....I have been going back and forth with the other manager since Saturday trying to get a trade done. This is the latest counter offer he sent me:

MY:
Berkman, Ortiz, Atkins, E. Santana
For His:
Howard, Holiday, Valverde

I have Beltre to plug-in at 3rd. I am hurting at closer position with Soria & B.J. Ryan. Valverde would upgrade me there. Berkman has been struggling the first week of this year and last Septmber too. I am worried that Berkman's elbow is hurting him and will be a problem for the rest of the year. Ortiz is nice but I can only use him at Utility spot and he is getting older. If I made this trade I would than pickup from the Free Agent List: Tori Hunter, Jay Bruce, Connor Jackson or Denard Span with my open roster spot

Is this trade worth it? Am I giving up too much? Any and all advice/opions are appreciated!
WHIR!!!!! Just leave link.

My Team is below:
10 Team Head2Head 5X5
C:Posada
1b:Berkman
2b:Phillips
3b:Atkins
SS:Jeter
OF:Braun, Crawford, Ibanez
Util:Ortiz
BN: Kendrick, Beltre, Kelly Johnson, Lind
SP:Peavy, Kazmir, Grienke, Danks, C. Young
RP: Soria, B.J. Ryan
BN: Davies, Scherzer
DL: E. Santana

[philaphan]

Bump...sorry I had to bump

[SpecialFNK]

looks good to me.
Howard is right there or better in value than even a healthy Berkman. i expect Howard AVG to be better this season.
im not a fan of Atkins. his home/away splits last season were very different.. and even in small sample size this season are the same. home- .308/.308/.769/1.077/ away- .067/.118/.067/.184/ IF Colorado ends up trading him he could be a killer.
Holliday wont have AS GOOD of numbers with Oakland, but still pretty damn good. Ortiz had a health issue last season, that could be a concern.
getting Valverde helps you at closer.
you can afford to lose Santana. hes a risk this season even allready being injured. there was a write up a razzball.com prior to the season calling Santana a risk for this season. this is some of what it said.

He’s maintained steady pitch counts the last 3 years but his growing over-reliance on his slider (21% in ‘06 to 33% in ‘08) and near-abandoning of the changeup (9.6% to 3.9%) make him a riskier than average proposition in 2009.

the rest of the article is here if interested..
http://razzball.com/20-risky-pitchers-for-2009


i would think its good.

[Barnes]

WHIR!!!!!!

Okay here is the deal....I have been going back and forth with the other manager since Saturday trying to get a trade done. This is the latest counter offer he sent me:

MY:
Berkman, Ortiz, Atkins, E. Santana
For His:
Howard, Holiday, Valverde

I have Beltre to plug-in at 3rd. I am hurting at closer position with Soria & B.J. Ryan. Valverde would upgrade me there. Berkman has been struggling the first week of this year and last Septmber too. I am worried that Berkman's elbow is hurting him and will be a problem for the rest of the year. Ortiz is nice but I can only use him at Utility spot and he is getting older. If I made this trade I would than pickup from the Free Agent List: Tori Hunter, Jay Bruce, Connor Jackson or Denard Span with my open roster spot

Is this trade worth it? Am I giving up too much? Any and all advice/opions are appreciated!
WHIR!!!!! Just leave link.

My Team is below:
10 Team Head2Head 5X5
C:Posada
1b:Berkman
2b:Phillips
3b:Atkins
SS:Jeter
OF:Braun, Crawford, Ibanez
Util:Ortiz
BN: Kendrick, Beltre, Kelly Johnson, Lind
SP:Peavy, Kazmir, Grienke, Danks, C. Young
RP: Soria, B.J. Ryan
BN: Davies, Scherzer
DL: E. Santana

I would do it, Howard is an upgrade on Berkman and Ortiz as both are injury risks, and ortiz's numbers slacked off last season if i remember correctly. and howard has A LOT of support in Philly. Valverde will solidify your RP as i am jsut waiting for BJ to either lose his job or get injured and Santana is a risk, and you may be able to sell him reasonably high due to his numbers last year.

[The Mighty Trow]

thank you for your help with mine. i would do this -- you're selling high on berkman, who isn't as good howard. holliday is a big upgrade over ortiz. santana could be hit or miss, atkins i'm not thrilled with. valverde is the real deal, and consistent. i think you're getting the three best players in this trade. nice one

[richiro]

Definitely pull the trigger on this. You're getting the 2 best players at least....take it before he yanks the offer!

Thanks for the help with mine, go fightins!

[philaphan]

just an update...the SOB other manager pulled the deal right before I was about to accept the trade!

I sent him an e-mail flipping out! He told me that he wanted Ibanez in the deal too. I Told him that he was crazy and I am done dealing with him!!!!!!!

I am so angry right now!