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Re: Which if any current pitcher makes the HOF?

Postby cordscords » Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:45 pm

Oswalt has the intention of retiring when his contract is up at the end of 2011. He had his fun, made his money, and just wants to enjoy simple life on the farm. Sadly I doubt he makes it.
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Re: Which if any current pitcher makes the HOF?

Postby mweir145 » Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:51 pm

cordscords wrote:Oswalt has the intention of retiring when his contract is up at the end of 2011. He had his fun, made his money, and just wants to enjoy simple life on the farm. Sadly I doubt he makes it.

He doesn't want to win a World Series?
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Re: Which if any current pitcher makes the HOF?

Postby auclairkeithbc » Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:00 pm

cordscords wrote:Oswalt has the intention of retiring when his contract is up at the end of 2011. He had his fun, made his money, and just wants to enjoy simple life on the farm. Sadly I doubt he makes it.


We'll see about that one. I doubt he retires then if he is still a legit #1 pitcher.
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Re: Which if any current pitcher makes the HOF?

Postby Grounded Polo » Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:05 pm

The current best pitchers really need to do something in the postseason to bump up their odds. Halladay has never thrown a game in the playoffs, Johan has been a non-factor, CC has been terrible, Oswalt was good in the 2005 NLCS and hasn't been in a few years, and both Webb/Peavy haven't done anything. Not that it's their fault but it's a bit funny how pitching wins championships and all of the best and well established pitchers in the game today are never there.
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Re: Which if any current pitcher makes the HOF?

Postby CadensDad » Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:19 pm

cordscords wrote:Oswalt has the intention of retiring when his contract is up at the end of 2011. He had his fun, made his money, and just wants to enjoy simple life on the farm. Sadly I doubt he makes it.



And where is a link to this info? I've never heard something like this
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Re: Which if any current pitcher makes the HOF?

Postby auclairkeithbc » Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:26 pm

Grounded Polo wrote:The current best pitchers really need to do something in the postseason to bump up their odds. Halladay has never thrown a game in the playoffs, Johan has been a non-factor, CC has been terrible, Oswalt was good in the 2005 NLCS and hasn't been in a few years, and both Webb/Peavy haven't done anything. Not that it's their fault but it's a bit funny how pitching wins championships and all of the best and well established pitchers in the game today are never there.


good point. josh beckett has a better chance than his regular season numbers would suggest. a loooong way to go, but he has better postseason numbers than most great pitchers will have at the end of their careers, and he'll be in the postseason a lot more if he stays productive with the red sox.
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Re: Which if any current pitcher makes the HOF?

Postby cordscords » Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:42 pm

CadensDad wrote:
cordscords wrote:Oswalt has the intention of retiring when his contract is up at the end of 2011. He had his fun, made his money, and just wants to enjoy simple life on the farm. Sadly I doubt he makes it.



And where is a link to this info? I've never heard something like this


http://www.kffl.com/player/4874/MLB

Astros | Oswalt says he'll retire after 2011
Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:34:33 -0800

Astros.MLB.com's Alyson Footer reports Houston Astros SP Roy Oswalt plans to retire after his contract expires after the 2011 season.


Right after he signed the contract back in 2006 he even said that was his plan, but I cant find that link. He's been saying this for awhile now.
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Re: Which if any current pitcher makes the HOF?

Postby Tavish » Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:45 pm

mweir145 wrote:
thatdamtom wrote:
mweir145 wrote:Johan Santana:
Hall of Fame Monitor Pitching - 72 (158), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame Standards Pitching - 36 (89), Average HOFer ≈ 50

Roy Halladay:
Hall of Fame Monitor Pitching - 73 (156), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame Standards Pitching - 31 (133), Average HOFer ≈ 50

Roy Oswalt:
Hall of Fame Monitor Pitching - 55 (225), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame Standards Pitching - 32 (125), Average HOFer ≈ 50

CC Sabathia:
Hall of Fame Monitor Pitching - 47 (277), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame Standards Pitching - 21 (264), Average HOFer ≈ 50


What does that mean?

My bad: http://www.baseball-reference.com/about ... of_monitor

Basically, these guys still have a long way to go.

Lucky for them they are all still relatively young. I wouldn't be surprised if all 4 of them made the Standards average since they have all just recently reached the milestones where it starts scoring the accumlative stats (100 wins 1000 Ks, 1000 IPs). The Monitor might be even easier. Getting into the 225+ wins area and 3000Ks should get all of them over the average. Sure they have some work left to do, but considering the oldest of the group is 32 and CC is 28, I think they all have a very good shot at beating those metrics. Whether it will get them in or not is another story.
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Re: Which if any current pitcher makes the HOF?

Postby foeplay » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:20 pm

Cole Hamels, obviously.
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