METS 24 wrote:There was a debate. One person said one thing while the other person is trying to debunk it. Person A makes a statement & person B tries to explain why they disagree, which is the reason person B has more to say.
That is precisely what I was saying.
Person A attempts to debunk the first statement by attempting to change the generally accepted definitions of the terms "stud" and "5 tool." Person B used those terms correctly. Stud does not only apply to top 5 players. You don't have to bat .300 or hit 40 homers to qualify as being a 5 tool player.
Person A doesn't even really attempt to debunk the second statement in any real way. To debunk the second statement, Person B needs to show that the Marlins actually did not think Hanley Ramirez would become a very productive player. I seriously doubt you want to argue that. You could try to nitpick his statement, and argue that the Marlins did not "know" he'd be good, only that they were confident that he'd be good, but that is pretty weak in my opinion.