Dan Lambskin wrote:filthy...in the past he seems to fade after the ASB though, so it will be intersting to see if he keeps it up. i still give the edge to Roy right now
No doubt Halladay has the inside track with his history and stuff. Verlander is an exeperienced major leaguer now, though, so maybe he has learned what he needs to do to stay strong all season. I love the way he is pitching right now, but before I could say Cy Young and Verlander in the same sentence I have to see how well he does when his stuff is there. Cy Young winners give up 4-5 when they are off, Verlander's April ERA was 6.75 which suggests that when he is off he is awful.
Dan Lambskin wrote:filthy...in the past he seems to fade after the ASB though, so it will be intersting to see if he keeps it up. i still give the edge to Roy right now
No doubt Halladay has the inside track with his history and stuff. Verlander is an exeperienced major leaguer now, though, so maybe he has learned what he needs to do to stay strong all season. I love the way he is pitching right now, but before I could say Cy Young and Verlander in the same sentence I have to see how well he does when his stuff is there. Cy Young winners give up 4-5 when they are off, Verlander's April ERA was 6.75 which suggests that when he is off he is awful.
He adjusted his arm angle during spring training. During his first 4 starts he allowed 21 ER. Then after his fifth start (7 IP, 0 ER, 9 K), he said he finally got comfortable with the new arm angle, and has rattled off 9 QS in a row since then (most of them absolutely filthy, allowing 2 ER or less in 8 of the 9), so I tend to buy his explanation. So I don't think you can take that 6.75 ERA is an indication of what its like when he is off. He seems to have become comfortable with the new arm angle and hasn't been off yet since he has. Not saying he won't ever be off ever, just don't think we have an indicator yet of what it will be like with the new angle.
RenPastana wrote:Verlander is at best a: 3.75+ ER, 1.27+ WHIP, 150-170K pitcher...If he pitched in the NL, these numbers would be significantly lower but he does not...
is what I said...stop tryin to put words into my mouth buddy...
It's bc of people like you that I end up winning my leagues with such ease...always overvaluing pitchers after good back to back starts or after a hitter has an incredible week numbers wise...Keep it up bc this is when the snake bites!
Verlander for CY Young: 269K's! Per outflow
Look for me in September (I will be here) and I will challenge and prove you otherwise! MONEY!
Where is RenPastana?????? How many K's has Verlander ended the season on? OOOOOOOOOOOOwwwwwww 269.
RenPastana wrote:Verlander is at best a: 3.75+ ER, 1.27+ WHIP, 150-170K pitcher...If he pitched in the NL, these numbers would be significantly lower but he does not...
is what I said...stop tryin to put words into my mouth buddy...
It's bc of people like you that I end up winning my leagues with such ease...always overvaluing pitchers after good back to back starts or after a hitter has an incredible week numbers wise...Keep it up bc this is when the snake bites!
Verlander for CY Young: 269K's! Per outflow
Look for me in September (I will be here) and I will challenge and prove you otherwise! MONEY!
Where is RenPastana?????? How many K's has Verlander ended the season on? OOOOOOOOOOOOwwwwwww 269.
Mod Edit---Really what was the point of that.
Honestly....read back on a few of those threads I'm talking about and you will see. Hey, I'm sorry there are few people from earlier this year that need to be called out.
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RenPastana wrote: is what I said...stop tryin to put words into my mouth buddy...
It's bc of people like you that I end up winning my leagues with such ease...always overvaluing pitchers after good back to back starts or after a hitter has an incredible week numbers wise...Keep it up bc this is when the snake bites!
Verlander for CY Young: 269K's! Per outflow
Look for me in September (I will be here) and I will challenge and prove you otherwise! MONEY!
You got nothing. hahahahahhaa.
I got you thinking Verlander ends up with 269K's...I am going to enjoy the feedback and laughs from all over the cafe over this one...
Also, Put down Harden to end with 3K/IP...great logic dude!