the official "I hate wins as a category" thread

[Yoda]

Is there a more arbitrary category than the W? I had two good starts this week ruined by a crappy performing bullpen. A starter can give up 10 runs in 5 innings and still get the W. A closer who blows a save in the 9th gets a W because his team scores a pair of runs in the 10th. WTF?

[Old_Style]

Use quality starts if you don't like wins.

[ytorf]

That's what we do in my league, we count quality starts over double the value of wins.

[MasterX1918]

I agree that Wins is sort of a petty statistic

[Neato Torpedo]

:~( Use quality starts if you don't like wins.

The problems: 5.2 IP, 0 ER and 9 IP, 4 ER

Quality starts should be redefined as "a starter who goes 4.2 IP or over and has a ≤4.50 ERA for the game".

[Maris09]

:~( Use quality starts if you don't like wins.

The problems: 5.2 IP, 0 ER and 9 IP, 4 ER

Quality starts should be redefined as "a starter who goes 4.2 IP or over and has a ≤4.50 ERA for the game".

Exactly right.

There are major flaws on both sides.
They really have to modify the stat (at least for fantasy purposes).

[swyck]

I agree that Wins is sort of a petty statistic

Because wins aren't important to a baseball team?

[garf112]

Quality starts should be redefined as "a starter who goes 4.2 IP or over and has a ≤4.50 ERA for the game".

why should you get credit for a quality start if you pitch 4.2 IP???

[BitterDodgerFan]

i don't mind the relivers blowing Ws because it won't happen to just your guys, it will happen to everyone in the end.

[OneLoveBoomer]

Is there a more arbitrary category than the W? I had two good starts this week ruined by a crappy performing bullpen. A starter can give up 10 runs in 5 innings and still get the W. A closer who blows a save in the 9th gets a W because his team scores a pair of runs in the 10th. WTF?

I don't mind wins -- they're fun.