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Re: Hamilton Quentin Trade - In the Ballpark?

Postby jackie hayes » Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:22 am

Amazinz wrote:It's in the ballpark but not likely to be accepted IMHO. The upgrade between Quentin and Hamilton is small compared to the drop off from Aram to Reynolds. From your perspective, if the trade was accepted, I would have no concerns at all.


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Re: Hamilton Quentin Trade - In the Ballpark?

Postby rplantz » Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:26 am

Unless you didn't believe Hamilton's hype from a decade ago (which he's since outplayed) and that a relapse into drugs is a major concern, I'd call Hamilton 5x more of a 'sure thing' for 2009 and beyond than Quentin. Night and Day.


2008 Stats

Quentin - .288/36HR/100RBI/96R/7SB (130 GP - 480 AB)
Hamilton - .304/32HR/130RBI/98R/9SB (156 GP - 624 AB)

I'm not sure what I'm missing here. Quentin played 26 less games and had 144 less ABs. Are we expecting him to physically fall apart this year? What's the likelihood on that? I'm not arguing that Hamilton isn't a phenomenal player. He's a brilliant one with a tremendous (come)back story. But look at the lines. Like I said, I'm not sure what I'm missing here. Hamilton may be a "sure thing", but certainly not 5x better, Night and Day better than Quentin.
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Re: Hamilton Quentin Trade - In the Ballpark?

Postby jswede » Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:00 pm

rplantz wrote:
Unless you didn't believe Hamilton's hype from a decade ago (which he's since outplayed) and that a relapse into drugs is a major concern, I'd call Hamilton 5x more of a 'sure thing' for 2009 and beyond than Quentin. Night and Day.


2008 Stats

Quentin - .288/36HR/100RBI/96R/7SB (130 GP - 480 AB)
Hamilton - .304/32HR/130RBI/98R/9SB (156 GP - 624 AB)

I'm not sure what I'm missing here. Quentin played 26 less games and had 144 less ABs. Are we expecting him to physically fall apart this year? What's the likelihood on that? I'm not arguing that Hamilton isn't a phenomenal player. He's a brilliant one with a tremendous (come)back story. But look at the lines. Like I said, I'm not sure what I'm missing here. Hamilton may be a "sure thing", but certainly not 5x better, Night and Day better than Quentin.


what you're missing is I said/meant '5x more of a sure thing' - certainly NOT 5x better. I'm trying to quantify downside; possible deviation from last year, addressing the idea that "both players have 'done it only once'".
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