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Liriano, Oswalt, Felix, or Shields for 2009

Postby omaan256 » Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:09 pm

Which fantasy pitcher will be the best in 2009?

Francisco Liriano
Roy Oswalt
Felix Hernandez
or James Shields
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Re: Liriano, Oswalt, Felix, or Shields for 2009

Postby The Artful Dodger » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:29 pm

I like James Shields best. Third-year pitchers tend to have a history of taking a good step forward and so, I'd say he still has room to improve.

At the end of the day, I wouldn't be surprised to see Felix and/or Liriano take a step up or to see Oswalt to produce like last year. Shields would be the one of the four I'd prefer to bank on as a #1 starter, if need be.
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Re: Liriano, Oswalt, Felix, or Shields for 2009

Postby dave knight » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:37 pm

1. Oswalt - has shown top tier ability time and again even if Ks are a bit down
2. Felix - He's still at an age where he can take big steps forward, and the Mariners though bad for wins have put together an improved defense
3. Shields - He's good, but not an elite talent for fantasy
4. Liriano - Too much risk as the velocity was down last year, but could come back and join this tier of pitchers
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Re: Liriano, Oswalt, Felix, or Shields for 2009

Postby The_Show » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:43 pm

It is pretty tough choice between the security of Shields and Oswalt as opposed to the potential of Felix and Liriano. Liriano has amazing potential, but I tend to lean toward safer picks. Between Shields and Oswalt, I think I would go with Oswalt.

Shields has some nasty home/road splits (1.04 WHIP, 2.59 ERA @ Home; 1.31WHIP, 4.82 ERA Away) while Oswalt has shown a little more consistency (1.21 WHIP, 3.73 ERA @ Home; 1.14 WHIP, 3.34 ERA Away). It may just be a personal preference, but I always go with consistency.
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Re: Liriano, Oswalt, Felix, or Shields for 2009

Postby SonsofSlam04 » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:51 pm

I like Shields, Oswalt, Felix and Liriano ...in that order...

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Re: Liriano, Oswalt, Felix, or Shields for 2009

Postby The Artful Dodger » Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:04 am

dave knight wrote:3. Shields - He's good, but not an elite talent for fantasy


I'm curious as to why you rank Oswalt first, but yet he and Shields had nearly identical lines for 2008. Oswalt had some nagging injuries whereas Shields as a changeup pitcher bodes well, as those types of pitchers tend not to build as much duress as power pitchers. I don't see Oswalt having much additional upside to how he performed in '08 as well. However marginal the difference Shields has in upside compared to Oswalt, I still think that's worth pursuing, especially beyond this year.

As for Shields' away splits, I think it's a bit harsh to judge him off of two coming-of-age years as to if his away splits will turn out to be awful. In '07, he still had a manageable 4.25 ERA on the road while improving markedly at home.
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Re: Liriano, Oswalt, Felix, or Shields for 2009

Postby FantasySportsMaven » Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:06 am

Oswalt will be better this year.

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Re: Liriano, Oswalt, Felix, or Shields for 2009

Postby dave knight » Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:48 am

The Artful Dodger wrote:
dave knight wrote:3. Shields - He's good, but not an elite talent for fantasy


I'm curious as to why you rank Oswalt first, but yet he and Shields had nearly identical lines for 2008. Oswalt had some nagging injuries whereas Shields as a changeup pitcher bodes well, as those types of pitchers tend not to build as much duress as power pitchers. I don't see Oswalt having much additional upside to how he performed in '08 as well. However marginal the difference Shields has in upside compared to Oswalt, I still think that's worth pursuing, especially beyond this year.

As for Shields' away splits, I think it's a bit harsh to judge him off of two coming-of-age years as to if his away splits will turn out to be awful. In '07, he still had a manageable 4.25 ERA on the road while improving markedly at home.


Before last year Oswalt averaged about a 3.0, and before last year Shields wasn't all that great. Factor in the NL Central vs. AL East, add the track record, and that is the difference.
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Re: Liriano, Oswalt, Felix, or Shields for 2009

Postby HOOTIE » Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:19 am

omaan256 wrote:Which fantasy pitcher will be the best in 2009?

2 Francisco Liriano
3 Roy Oswalt
4 Felix Hernandez
1 or James Shields
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Re: Liriano, Oswalt, Felix, or Shields for 2009

Postby gleemonex » Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:08 am

i like them all as guys i target as my top 2 pitchers. shields and oswalt are safer. felix and liriano have more upside. it's close but i'd go shields, oswalt, liriano, then felix.
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