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Postby NickyEyes » Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:06 pm

Me and my friend got a team in an auction league. H2H, 18 teams. We start: C, 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, OF, OF, OF, DH, SP, SP, SP, SP, RP.

$325 salary cap, and we have restricted players which are guys who everyone places a silent bid on, and then the owner of that restricted player can either match the highest to keep the guy, or let him walk to team who bid the highest.

Anyway, me and my friend took a big risk and won the two biggest names in the restricted draft.

along with the keepers we were forced to keep from the other guys team last year, heres our team so far:

C
1B Albert Pujols $84
2B
SS Yunel Escobar $25
3B
OF Justin Upton $11
OF Alex Rios $39
OF Grady Sizemore $76
DH Carlos Delgado $12
SP
SP
SP
SP
RP

Which leaves us with an appalling $78 for 8 guys left.

Now, after we spent twice (or three times) as much money as every other team, we need some pitching BIG TIME! I think with the empty spots, its safe to say we have the best offense in the league no matter what. We're gonna put both Pujols and Sizemore on the block to see if we get any offers, otherwise, we need some big time value pitchers.

So, do you guys think we're completely screwed, or could this work? Feel free to throw in a valuable pitcher you think we might be able to get :-D

Thanks, WHIR
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Re: I'm new to fantasy baseball and we took a big risk

Postby xclrated » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:09 pm

You can totally do this...

Unwittingly perhaps you've drafted a "Studs & Scrubs" team... where you pay a bunch o cash for a couple of monsters (Pujols, Sizemore) and some solid position players (Rios, Upton, hopefully YEsc).

Go to ESPN's fantasy Baseball section and look at draft strategies, like Karabell or Matt Berry for details about this strategy.
http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/baseb ... chstrategy

You'll have to keep your wallet in your pocket for a while until everyone else spends their cash.

Look for the guys who are ranked 10-15 in their position and wait for them to come down at $3 to $7 range, if that.

For catcher you might have to go with Chris Snyder or Kurt Suzuki.
For 2b go with Orlando Hudson or Mike Fontenot.
For 3b how about Mike Lowell or Emilio Bonifacio?

Good luck!
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Re: I'm new to fantasy baseball and we took a big risk

Postby melinapayne » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:21 pm

pitchers-

SP:
Scott Baker
Clay Buchholz (MUST HAVE. Looks like he's back to 2007 form)
Paul Maholm
Chris Caprenter
Jair Jurrjens


RP
Jason Motte
(insert one here, not sure)

Batters-
2b- Mike Avilles
C- Saltalamacchia
3b- YOOOOOOOOOOOK


Bench-
1b- Mike Jacobs (Underrated Steal)
C- Matt Wieters (bench)
OF- Brett Gardner (yankees prospect who made outfield starting)
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Re: I'm new to fantasy baseball and we took a big risk

Postby candyman » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:49 pm

NickyEyes wrote:Me and my friend got a team in an auction league. H2H, 18 teams. We start: C, 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, OF, OF, OF, DH, SP, SP, SP, SP, RP.

$325 salary cap, and we have restricted players which are guys who everyone places a silent bid on, and then the owner of that restricted player can either match the highest to keep the guy, or let him walk to team who bid the highest.

Anyway, me and my friend took a big risk and won the two biggest names in the restricted draft.

along with the keepers we were forced to keep from the other guys team last year, heres our team so far:

C
1B Albert Pujols $84
2B
SS Yunel Escobar $25
3B
OF Justin Upton $11
OF Alex Rios $39
OF Grady Sizemore $76
DH Carlos Delgado $12
SP
SP
SP
SP
RP

Which leaves us with an appalling $78 for 8 guys left.

Now, after we spent twice (or three times) as much money as every other team, we need some pitching BIG TIME! I think with the empty spots, its safe to say we have the best offense in the league no matter what. We're gonna put both Pujols and Sizemore on the block to see if we get any offers, otherwise, we need some big time value pitchers.

So, do you guys think we're completely screwed, or could this work? Feel free to throw in a valuable pitcher you think we might be able to get :-D

Thanks, WHIR



You're going to have to target some under the rader pitchers for sure... I think you can save some $$$ at 3B with Lowell, who is bein very undervalued this year IMO... Think about Mark Teahan, Kaz Matsui, A. Hill, or Fontenot for 2B, decent 2B that might be able to be had for the 3-5 dollar range. At C I'd just go with anybody that starts and won't kill your AVG, don't spent more than 5 dollars here...

I figure you still have about $58 left for pitching now...
Lowell ~$10
2b~$5
C~$5

For pitching you'll have to target under the radar guys...

RP Ideas:
Motte
Ray
Downs

SP Possibilities:
Ted Lilly
Meche
Danks
Slowey
Kuroda (always undervalued, but has very good ratios in a weak division)
K. Escobar (will miss time)
Carpenter
B. Anderson
T. Cahill
J. Zimmermann


Other guys that should be able to be gotten cheap:
DeJesus (always cheap and consistant)
J. Schafer (ATL OF)
K. Greene
Fred Lewis

Hope that helps... just some ideas of guys that may be able to fill your roster within your budget
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Re: I'm new to fantasy baseball and we took a big risk

Postby NickyEyes » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:53 pm

xclrated wrote:You can totally do this...

Unwittingly perhaps you've drafted a "Studs & Scrubs" team... where you pay a bunch o cash for a couple of monsters (Pujols, Sizemore) and some solid position players (Rios, Upton, hopefully YEsc).

Go to ESPN's fantasy Baseball section and look at draft strategies, like Karabell or Matt Berry for details about this strategy.
http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/baseb ... chstrategy

You'll have to keep your wallet in your pocket for a while until everyone else spends their cash.

Look for the guys who are ranked 10-15 in their position and wait for them to come down at $3 to $7 range, if that.

For catcher you might have to go with Chris Snyder or Kurt Suzuki.
For 2b go with Orlando Hudson or Mike Fontenot.
For 3b how about Mike Lowell or Emilio Bonifacio?

Good luck!

Thank you for that article. it was indeed informative. we're looking at mid-level 2b and 3b now, and we already have a list of 15 or so top prospect pitchers.

someone in the league is offering us cap space for delgado and escobar, which we might consider taking (an extra $37 to spend). we were kinda pissed at how much escobar was kept for by the team before us. he has upside, but $25 just seems too expensive.
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Re: I'm new to fantasy baseball and we took a big risk

Postby C2ThaLo88 » Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:23 pm

If you could get a Hardy or someone like that at SS fairly cheap and grab someone to replace Delgado then that trade wouldn't be so terrible I guess.

As far as the rest of your team, when it's your turn to nominate players to draft I would nominate players you know you're not going to bid on but others will bid a lot on. You could get other teams to eat up their cap space and perhaps help lower the prices of players later in the draft so you can afford them as well.
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Re: I'm new to fantasy baseball and we took a big risk

Postby oxhammer » Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:40 pm

Sandoval, J Lopez, Aviles for position players.
SP - Penny, Maine, Marcum, and Buehrle might be a few that others won't name that might come at a cheap price.

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Re: I'm new to fantasy baseball and we took a big risk

Postby xclrated » Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:28 pm

Also on ESPN -

Auction Draft Averages will help:
http://games.espn.go.com/flb/livedraftresults

I like everyone else's suggestions, too. A lot - just watch your money carefully and don't get hung on one guy too much where you blow your load.

If you can DUMP Delgado, do it in a heartbeat - someone like Mike Jacobs or Helton or Loney or Ishikawa (depending on your immediate needs) can back up Pujols for pennies. Or just go for an outfielder like Spillborghs to fill your Util and be available for injury backup in the OF.

Try and get one halfway decent RP cheap (KWood or CQualls?) and then look for other guys way late (Seattle, Florida, Baltimore, Milwaukee, Detroit for example) where the situation is still a bit unsettled.
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Re: I'm new to fantasy baseball and we took a big risk

Postby NickyEyes » Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:29 am

so far my scout team looks like this:

Pablo Sandoval
Jose Lopez
Mat Gamel
Elvis Andrus
Cameron Maybin
Ryan Doumit
Chris Iannetta
Matt Weiters
Howie Kendrick
Jed Lowrie
Alexei Ramirez

Trevor Cahill
Edwin Jackson
Franscisco Liriano
Brett Myers
Andy Sonnanstine
Jason Motte
John Danks
Ryan Dempster
Kenshin Kawakami
Clayton Kershaw
Hiroki Kuroda
Justin Masterson
Vin Mazzaro
David Purcey
Chris Volstad
Jordan Zimmerman

I know some of these guys are super young and practically irrelevant for a year or two, but i want to get familiar with them anyway. now i'm currently looking through all of the players you guys mentioned as well.

we're hoping the dump Delgado and Escobar to another team for $37 in cap space later tonight. we're hoping we can grab Jed Lowrie and Cameron Maybin for the total cost of what Escobar was, which was $25.

thanks everyone for the support. i'll return the favor if i catch any of your threads.
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