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Marmol or Ray? WHIR

Postby Doughhead » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:34 pm

I have Marmol, but it seems to me Ray is a better bet now to win his team's closer job. Thoughts?

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3B: Evan Longoria
SS: Jose Reyes
OF: Josh Hamilton
OF: Jason Bay
OF: Carlos Quentin
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MI: Chone Figgins
CI: Justin Morneau
UTL: Nate McLouth
BN: Nelson Cruz
BN: Chris Iannetta

SP: Dan Haren
SP: Chad Billingsley
SP: Zack Greinke
RP: Jonathon Papelbon
RP: Mariano Rivera
P: Kevin Gregg
P: Carlos Marmol
BN: Ricky Nolasco
BN: Erik Bedard
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Re: Marmol or Ray? WHIR

Postby Bubba44 » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:37 pm

I'd rather have Ray. I never really thought Marmol was anything that good anyways. Sure he might get you a few saves but he doesn't have the most impressive ERA or WHIP.
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Re: Marmol or Ray? WHIR

Postby Southern Illinois Cardinals Fan » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:38 pm

Ray may not be the closer out of the gate. However, it is almost a given that he will be fairly soon. I'd go for it.

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Re: Marmol or Ray? WHIR

Postby Doughhead » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:41 pm

Bubba44 wrote:I'd rather have Ray. I never really thought Marmol was anything that good anyways. Sure he might get you a few saves but he doesn't have the most impressive ERA or WHIP.


I appreciate the feedback, but that seems like an odd thing to say about a guy who had a 2.68 ERA / 0.93 WHIP last year and a 1.43 ERA / 1.10 WHIP the year before (not to mention 210 Ks in 156.2 IP).
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Re: Marmol or Ray? WHIR

Postby mykedoc77 » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:41 pm

Even though Chicago has named Gregg the starter, things may change (as you know), but even as a "set up" guy for Gregg, Marmol may have more value than Ray. I would keep Marmol for now, but watch the situation in The D closely. Good luck.

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Re: Marmol or Ray? WHIR

Postby sinicalypse » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:42 pm

yeah whilst i think marmol is technically a better pitcher, ray has a much better shot at being the closer.

i live in chicago: take it from me, lou loves his marmol blankie to come in and abuse for 1-2 innings whenever he feels so inclined, and many of us chicago peeps are like "uhhh dude we want him to close so you can limit the wear and tear and abuse on his arms" because marmol ranked behind only aaron heilman, new 2009 cub, in terms of MLB relief pitcher abuse in 2008, and now we've gotta go crap will he be ok for the three-and-out playoff nosedive in october?!@

time will tell =D
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Re: Marmol or Ray? WHIR

Postby jerseyjef » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:30 pm

i would go with Ray. has been dominating this spring while Sherril has struggled some. If he doesnt start with the gig-he will have it after the first few weeks.

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Re: Marmol or Ray? WHIR

Postby Amazinz » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:35 pm

Even without the SV, Marmol will be valuable in a roto league and you have Gregg so I wouldn't be too quick to drop Marmol. I'd be more inclined to open up a spot by getting rid of Iannetta, who just does not have a lot of value on the bench of 1-catcher 8-team league.
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Re: Marmol or Ray? WHIR

Postby the dresden » Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:37 pm

Doughhead wrote:
Bubba44 wrote:I'd rather have Ray. I never really thought Marmol was anything that good anyways. Sure he might get you a few saves but he doesn't have the most impressive ERA or WHIP.


I appreciate the feedback, but that seems like an odd thing to say about a guy who had a 2.68 ERA / 0.93 WHIP last year and a 1.43 ERA / 1.10 WHIP the year before (not to mention 210 Ks in 156.2 IP).



I was just about to drop those stats on that poster. Thank you for saving me the time and effort.
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Re: Marmol or Ray? WHIR

Postby angels7777 » Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:43 pm

if you want Ray, drop one of those catchers - in an 8 team league carrying 2 catchers is worthless
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