Cliff Lee

[Yoda]

I think that it is safe to assume he hit his peak in 09. If that is the case then there is no real room to go up but a lot of room to go down. Unless if you believe he can get better that is.

[rookies and cream]

I'd say expect him to produce like a #3/#4 starter. I definitely would not be comfortable with him as my #2, but I do expect something around 15 Ws/150 Ks/3.7 ERA/1.25 WHIP...

Agreed here, about the same as Kuroda (who I got in the 22nd round of the Cafe Noobs draft).

Agreed, Lee is not good VALUE but he is a pretty good pitcher. I don't have him on any of my teams this year just because I'm not willing to pay the price.

Well, Lee would be pretty good value at picks 90-110 if he could perform at 75-80% of his 2008, which is about what I'm hoping for.

[bigh0rt]

Agreed here, about the same as Kuroda (who I got in the 22nd round of the Cafe Noobs draft).

Agreed, Lee is not good VALUE but he is a pretty good pitcher. I don't have him on any of my teams this year just because I'm not willing to pay the price.

Well, Lee would be pretty good value at picks 90-110 if he could perform at 75-80% of his 2008, which is about what I'm hoping for.

I agree. I took him as the 21st SP off the board in the Pond Scum League, and I am fine with the thought of him being one of the Top 20 fantasy SP this season, and have no delusions of an '08 repeat.