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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby MasterX1918 » Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:03 pm

I don't know what to expect from him either, which is why i'm avoiding him in drafts.
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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby RedSoxNation04 » Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:08 pm

Yanks_Baby wrote:
J35J wrote:The thing with Lee and anyone that doesn't K enough guys is they have to be dominate in ERA and WHIP or they aren't worth much. If he falls back to 3.70 ERA and 1.25 WHIP with his 140-150K then your pretty much looking at Hiroki Kuroda.

With more wins. And I'm ok with Kuroda +5 wins as my #2 or 3 pitcher. Plus, the key is potential. Kuroda is what he is. lee has the potential for briliant starts, which helps in H2h leagues. If you can get the occasional top 5 pitcher kind of start out of your #3 starter every once in a while, you're good to go in a H2H. I value lee much lower in Roto leagues.

Hoping for that occasional brilliant start can be devastating in H2H when you don't get it...I'll let him be someone ele'se headache this year.
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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby KCollins1304 » Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:24 pm

I wouldn't go near him at 64th overall(his MDP), but I was able to grab him 113th in the 10th round in the cafeholics noob league. In Pond Scum Cafeholics, he went 110th and in Masters he went 90th.
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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby rookies and cream » Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:48 pm

I grabbed him at 100 in the ECL and I doubt I'd reach any earlier. I'm a bit worried about his poor spring, but I believe he also struggled last year. I guess we'll see...
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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby RedSoxNation04 » Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:47 pm

rookies and cream wrote:I grabbed him at 100 in the ECL and I doubt I'd reach any earlier. I'm a bit worried about his poor spring, but I believe he also struggled last year. I guess we'll see...

Yeah, if I remember correctly, his spring last year was awful and there was talk of him going down to AAA...I think I posted something at the time saying he had better get it together if the Tribe was going to compete...
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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby fezzik » Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:40 pm

Yeah, I grabbed him mostly because I felt he had slipped too far (this was before his implosive spring) at pick 109. He's my number 4 starter, so hopefully he can be decent.
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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby Oatsdad » Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:34 pm

I think a lot of people simply expect Lee to implode this year. I don't expect 2008 from him, but I expect good numbers. I got him at 99th in the one draft where I took him, and I think I'll be happy with his production given that pick...
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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby j24jags » Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:43 pm

I'd say expect him to produce like a #3/#4 starter. I definitely would not be comfortable with him as my #2, but I do expect something around 15 Ws/150 Ks/3.7 ERA/1.25 WHIP...
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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby ayebatter » Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:51 pm

j24jags wrote:I'd say expect him to produce like a #3/#4 starter. I definitely would not be comfortable with him as my #2, but I do expect something around 15 Ws/150 Ks/3.7 ERA/1.25 WHIP...



Agreed here, about the same as Kuroda (who I got in the 22nd round of the Cafe Noobs draft).
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Re: Cliff Lee

Postby j24jags » Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:52 pm

ayebatter wrote:
j24jags wrote:I'd say expect him to produce like a #3/#4 starter. I definitely would not be comfortable with him as my #2, but I do expect something around 15 Ws/150 Ks/3.7 ERA/1.25 WHIP...



Agreed here, about the same as Kuroda (who I got in the 22nd round of the Cafe Noobs draft).

Agreed, Lee is not good VALUE but he is a pretty good pitcher. I don't have him on any of my teams this year just because I'm not willing to pay the price.
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