Whats goin on all... just drafted my last league of the year last night, its my ESPN Keeper (we keep 5 per year)... 5X5 league + Doubles, Total Bases, OBP and Holds, Shutouts, K/9.... its a H2H 12 teamer starting c, 1b, 2b, 3b, ss, lf, cf, rf, util, util, sp, sp, sp, sp, sp, rp, rp, rp, rp
Guy said hes looking to trade Markakis and Rios as a combo for a top 7 to 20 bat or a top 5 arm... was thinking about proposing:
I give Joey Votto/Justin Verlander I get Nick Markakis/Alex Rios
or
I give Ryan Howard/Ryan Spilbourghs I get Nick Markakis/Alex Rios
Or should i try something else?
my team:
C- VMart 1B- Ryan Howard 2B- Ian Kinsler 3B- David Wright SS- JJ Hardy LF- Jayson Werth CF- BJ Upton RF- Magglio Ordonez UTIL- Joey Votto UTIL- James Loney BN- Mark Reynolds BN- Nelson Cruz BN- Ryan Spilbourghs
SP- Felix Hernandez SP- Josh Beckett SP- AJ Burnett SP- Carlos Zambrano SP- Justin Verlander RP- Joey Devine RP- Brad Ziegler RP- Chris Perez RP- Scott Shields BN- Johnny Cueto BN- Jordan Zimmerman BN- Ubaldo Jimenez
Availables: Arroyo, Oliver Perez, Ben Sheets, Pelfrey, Maholm, Wakefield, Penny, and definitely gonna go grab Tommy Hanson as we have a 4 man minor league system so i can add him and drop him down...
I don't think the first trade is enough for him to accept but would definitely do it if you could. I can't knock anyone for trying to land Markakis but Rios isn't much of an upgrade to your OF so I can't justify giving up Howard for them.
H R 3B HR RBI BB SB AVG OBP SLG Napoli, D Lee, Roberts, Tulo, Wright, Markakis, Abreu, Soraino, Pena Reimold, Morgan IP W L SV SVOP K ERA WHIP K/9 QS SP: C Lee, Vazquez, Shields, Dempster, Lowe RP: Hoffman, Capps, Lidge Bench: Joba, Neftali, Tillman
i think you are deep enough at first to give up howard, but you would have to get better than spilbourghs. if you could swap in werth or ordonez it would be worth it. still a major upgrade to your OF
one big thing is this guy is pissed, he was checking out top players at certain cats (messing around a couple seconds before the draft) and somehow highlighted Jose Hernandez and lost internet connection for a couple seconds right as the draft started, shitty luck for him he ended up taking Hernandez #1 overall in the draft so hes just looking to shuffle players, basically willing to take the hit to get a top 20 bat and just rough this year out to have a couple good keepers... so hes willing to give up a little extra to get a top guy... change anything? ill post his roster and see if yall can think up a different trade that would still benefit me...
he stacked up on pitching and is now trying to deal to get a top bat, he said for some reason Jackson, Ichiro and Broxton are untouchable, and said hes looking to deal Markakis/Rios together for a top 7 to 20 bat or a top 5 arm
by Tom Emanski AllStars » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:37 pm
i think the only players he'll want from you are Howard or Wright. I don't see any top 5 arms on your staff. Wright is off limits. So Howard is the only available option. Now do i think losing Howard and gaining Markakis/Rios is an upgrade, well that depends. Howard in H2H is huge some weeks and dismal others, but its hard to argue his HR/RBI production. Markakis is a great player, and Rios isn't far behind. But you already have a lot of 20/20 guys (concerning Rios). So i don't think the addition of Rios is a huge upgrade for you. If i were you i wouldn't do the deal. But if you value Rios On you team, higher than i do than go for it.
Its an interesting scenario. I would see if he'd be willing to trade Ichiro as well. I think Votto is going to be very solid this year and pushing 30 HR, but he's not going to hit 45 HR like Howard. However, he should hit for a better AVG. I think that maybe offering Howard and Werth for Markakis and Ichiro and see what happens. I'm not a big Rios fan personally, always feel the hype is bigger than the numbers.
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by bazzy_51 » Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:55 am 
