Who wins this trade, I traded my Torii Hunter for his Jay Bruce and John Maine. Bruce was taken 8th round and Hunter was taken 10th round, Maine 16th round. But who is better Bruce or Hunter in general? This is a 14 team league, h2h, 5x5. Rest of my team is:
C Russell Martin 1B Ryan Howard 2B Brandon Phillips 3b Garrett Atkins SS Jose Reyes OF Vladimir Guerrero OF Jay Bruce (post trade) OF Elijah Dukes (25/25 potential worth it i think?) Util Prince Fielder
SP Felix Hernandez SP Scott Kazmir RP Joe Nathan RP Heath Bell P Javier Vazquez P Chris Ray (will he get the job? Lights out spring) p Ian Snell bn John Maine bn Sean Gallagher bn Joe Blanton bn Pedro martinez bn Kyle Davies bn empty (can get Brandon McCarthy or Trevor Cahill) who to go for here?
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well, i'm not sure about maine; i don't think getting him is a big deal. however, i do like jay bruce's potential. he's a 30 homer guy and should maintain a decent average. i like hunter too, but i don't think it was a bad trade.
as far as who to pick up, i like cahill, but we don't know if he'll make the cut. i'd watch to see if he does, then take a chance on him.
If it's a keeper league, I love the trade, since Bruce obviously has infinitely more upside than Hunter, and Maine is definitely a serviceable SP. Even in a non-keeper, I still think it's a decent trade for you... I'm avoiding Hunter this year.
This is not a keeper league... I like Bruce's potential a ton which is why I did it.. he can really take the Prince Fielder type leap from year 1 to year 2? Possibly I think.. that's why I did it.. where do you guys see Bruce's numbers falling into? I've heard anything from 40 and 120 to as low at 30 and 90. Hitting in the middle of the order and should get about 600 AB's.
id take the under on 30 hrs and around 90 rbis for this year for Bruce. The trade was fine. Bruce and Hunter will have end up with similar years with Bruce having the greater chance of having a better year, though not that big of a chance.
H R 3B HR RBI BB SB AVG OBP SLG Napoli, D Lee, Roberts, Tulo, Wright, Markakis, Abreu, Soraino, Pena Reimold, Morgan IP W L SV SVOP K ERA WHIP K/9 QS SP: C Lee, Vazquez, Shields, Dempster, Lowe RP: Hoffman, Capps, Lidge Bench: Joba, Neftali, Tillman
why do people think Bruce won't be very good? 2 for 4 today with 2 RBI and a SB. How come he can't have a huge year hitting in the middle of the Cincy lineup in that ball park for 600 ABs?
baseketball4life wrote:why do people think Bruce won't be very good? 2 for 4 today with 2 RBI and a SB. How come he can't have a huge year hitting in the middle of the Cincy lineup in that ball park for 600 ABs?
What is there to answer? I don't think anyone said they didn't think Bruce would be good... Just that 30/90 is a more realistic expectation than 40/120, which I agree with. Seems like you're creating a debate where one doesn't exist...
baseketball4life wrote:why do people think Bruce won't be very good? 2 for 4 today with 2 RBI and a SB. How come he can't have a huge year hitting in the middle of the Cincy lineup in that ball park for 600 ABs?
^^^^ can anyone answer this?
Not that I'd take Hunter over him but over 600 ABs, Jay Bruce would have racked up 160 strikeouts last year. Extrapolating his spring training yields 175 strikeouts. His overall minor league career would put him at 150 strikeouts for 600 ABs. The strikeout machines with power aren't as sure things to explode compared to the power guys who aren't strikeout machines like Matt Wieters. He's still pretty likely to have a big year, Longoria struck out a ton last year as well, but the production could have some awesome highs and horrific lows month to month. Either way, Jay Bruce's upside is well worth taking over Torii Hunter's guaranteed production.