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Re: Cantu, Hamilton, and J. Upton For Kemp and Morneau?

Postby Trojan Pony » Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:01 pm

I think Mauer/Posada is pretty solid for a 2 catcher league... I personally wouldn't worry about that position.
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Re: Cantu, Hamilton, and J. Upton For Kemp and Morneau?

Postby MNotar91 » Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:12 pm

Trojan Pony wrote:Can't help but notice he has Milledge wasting away on the bench there... I would definitely try to include him in any offer... Maybe replace Cantu and Upton with Huff and Milledge... Then I'd do it. You might have to give up a tad bit more to make that happen.

Thank you for the advice. I'll see what I can do with this. I'll post back if anything happens.
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Re: Cantu, Hamilton, and J. Upton For Kemp and Morneau?

Postby V » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:33 am

I don't get how many people are down on Hamilton. I see no reason why he can't repeat first half 2008, and stretch it out a little longer before he gets tired again.

I definitely buy low ('low'?, lol) on him. I see 40 HR this season. You have to find a way to make this deal or a variant.
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Re: Cantu, Hamilton, and J. Upton For Kemp and Morneau?

Postby MNotar91 » Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:40 pm

He offered me 2 new proposals today.

Cantu, Hamilton, and Miledge for my Kemp and Morneau

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Hamilton, Huff, and Miledge for my Beltran and Morneau.

I think I'm liking the second offer. Let me know what you guys think.

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Re: Cantu, Hamilton, and J. Upton For Kemp and Morneau?

Postby Trojan Pony » Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:51 pm

Yeah, I would do the second offer... ;-D
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Re: Cantu, Hamilton, and J. Upton For Kemp and Morneau?

Postby The Artful Dodger » Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:54 pm

I don't really care for both offers. The first one is still not enough for Kemp/Morneau in my book and I'd still be inclined to keep Beltran/Morneau even if the offer improved.
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Re: Cantu, Hamilton, and J. Upton For Kemp and Morneau?

Postby MNotar91 » Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:05 pm

I was thinking that Hamilton would put up better numbers than Beltran and I like Huff because he has the talent to do what he did last year and can play 1b and 3b. Miledge would give me some speed in the outfield. More opinions would be helpful.
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Re: Cantu, Hamilton, and J. Upton For Kemp and Morneau?

Postby Trojan Pony » Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:12 pm

Hamilton/Milledge vs. Beltran is a pretty substantial upgrade to your OF, and the drop from Morneau to Huff isn't enough to negate that. I think you win out easily on sheer value alone.
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Re: Cantu, Hamilton, and J. Upton For Kemp and Morneau?

Postby The Artful Dodger » Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:20 pm

MNotar91 wrote:I was thinking that Hamilton would put up better numbers than Beltran and I like Huff because he has the talent to do what he did last year and can play 1b and 3b. Miledge would give me some speed in the outfield. More opinions would be helpful.


I think you might be overestimating just how much better Hamilton would be over Beltran. Hamilton is capable of posting more power than Beltran by say, 35 to 25 homers, but he isn't the most durable guy either and his flyball rate last year was actually relatively low than what you'd expect out of a 30-35 homerun hitter. Beltran can reasonably go 25/25 and he doesn't hit half of the year at Shea, which kept his numbers at check, and he's still capable of posting 30 homeruns as well. Morneau for Huff/Milledge on the side is OK. It might be enough of a return for you, but personally, it wouldn't be as compelling to pull the trigger. Again, that's just me though.
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Re: Cantu, Hamilton, and J. Upton For Kemp and Morneau?

Postby MadDog36 » Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:38 pm

And you cannot be for certain that Huff will repeat. I'd stay put.

Offer him one of your solid OF and one of your catchers for Soto and Upton.
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