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Postby shawngee03 » Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:50 am

i seem to be getting this guy in every league at what i see is good value. 85th pick in an NL only league, 140th in a mixed, and for $20 in a 20 team auction that overvalues SP

why does nobody want him? i understand he was erratic at closer and only has one good year at SP...but getting him in the 12th round seems like fantastic value. even if i end up dropping him oh well...ive dropped plenty of Sp i grab in the 12th round before.

i just see if he even comes close to his effort last year id be really happy. and i see his rank in a lot of rankings very low. why all the hate?
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Postby Cleveland Steamers » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:18 pm

No hate here. I like his value as well. He's expected to regress, which I think is almost a guarantee, but I still see good value if he ends up with a 3.75 ERA, 15W, 180Ks...
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Re: Ryan Dempster

Postby horatio » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:36 pm

yeah I'm kind of bummed I haven't been able to grab him in either of my 2 drafts yet.
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Re: Ryan Dempster

Postby Guzman24 » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:47 pm

He's totally underated. I know this guy personally having played with him for 3 years and he works his ass off. Watch him improve on last years numbers. I've been targetting him too. He offers excellent value to where he's been drafted.
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Re: Ryan Dempster

Postby hot4tx » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:52 pm

I think its worry about the huge increase in IPs last year making him an injury candidate. There's a lot of other guys going around the same time in mixed league drafts who either have less injury risk or more upside IMHO.

Its not that he's being hated on, but more that there's other pitchers who I'd rather take there.
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Re: Ryan Dempster

Postby Ender » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:59 pm

A lot of bullpen guys that move to starter experience a dip in production the second season. I don't know if it is from a little arm fatigue settling in from the extra innings or just the league adjusting to them. You also have to keep in mind that Dempsters peripherals didn't agree with his ERA last year. He had a 3.94 xFIP compared to a 4.15 in 07 yet he had a 2.96 ERA compared to an 4.72 in 07.

I think Dempster is going to be more in the high 3s or low 4s for his ERA with decent K and good wins. I value him a lot like Lilly and Zambrano to be honest.
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Re: Ryan Dempster

Postby DaShiz23 » Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:58 pm

I think the 'unlove' is a combo of everything that's been said. The increase in innings and the fact that people think he pitched well above his potential. I would be extremely happy to get him as a #3 or #4 late in the middle of a draft. He should get a nice share of wins, and a moderate regression in ratios still fits him as a very nice piece of a fantasy rotation.
FWIW, I see him in between last year's numbers and what most projections have him at.
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Re: Ryan Dempster

Postby kimchi_chigae » Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:44 pm

Well, he is Ryan Dempster after all. ;-)

I like him for this year though. He had an amazing season last year and although no one is expecting him to repeat, I think he'll have a decent year.

$20 seems a bit too much for him though. I'd say $12 or $13 is about right IMO.
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