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Re: Hamels over Utley - #2 Pick

Postby WyldStallyn » Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:14 am

Yanks_Baby wrote:
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RowdyRed wrote:I think the keepers are set and these are the guys (Utley and Hamels) that were not protected, not that they were on his roster last year.

As for trading for Johan, he already has him. Why would he trade for him?


didnt go back to see who his keepers were. oops. i answered this awhile ago but he obviously is looking for people to back up his desire to draft hamels. but you get the point. draft utley and trade him for a pitcher better than johan

Does not compute. Does not compute.

Overload. Warning, overload. Meltdown in 5.


meant to put hamels. damn it baby, you threw off my game
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Re: Hamels over Utley - #2 Pick

Postby IrishDrunk » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:04 am

Man, I sparked a firestorm! :-D

I look at it boiling down like this:

Utley + Johan + Felix = #1 2B, #1 SP, #2 SP

Johan + Hamels + Uggla or Roberts = #1 SP, #1 SP, #2 2B

Why not dominate with an AWESOME pitching staff plus a not-so-appreciable-drop-off from Utley, than go after a "meh" (IMO) second SP that doesn't blow me away?

Also, I never get the LOVE for Felix - he is SO over hyped - what has he really ever done, seriously? Tons of hype, never produced consistently. :-t
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Re: Hamels over Utley - #2 Pick

Postby Padres Fan » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:44 pm

Draft Utley and some pitchers in your opinion that are "crap", trade 2 of those "crap" pitchers for Hamels, when hamels go down with arm fatigue like every other pitcher, you will wish you had Utley, Hamels has been complaining of arm issues alreday in the srping...big red flag there.

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Re: Hamels over Utley - #2 Pick

Postby Carnac » Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:34 pm

Your love affair with Hamels will cost you. Go with Utley, then target guys like Shields, Billingsley for your #2, then Nolasco, Volquez, Lester, Danks, etc. for your #3 and 4 starters.


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Re: Hamels over Utley - #2 Pick

Postby Yanks_Baby » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:20 pm

WyldStallyn wrote:
Yanks_Baby wrote:
WyldStallyn wrote:
didnt go back to see who his keepers were. oops. i answered this awhile ago but he obviously is looking for people to back up his desire to draft hamels. but you get the point. draft utley and trade him for a pitcher better than johan

Does not compute. Does not compute.

Overload. Warning, overload. Meltdown in 5.


meant to put hamels. damn it baby, you threw off my game

B-) :-b
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Re: Hamels over Utley - #2 Pick

Postby RowdyRed » Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:07 pm

What you've got is not the #2 2B....you've got the #4 or #5 second baseman. But, you've got to do what you want to do. You want Hamels, it is your team. Go for it. But I just don't think it makes sense.....I agree that Felix is overhyped, but if you aren't keen on those SP, you can draft another hitter the next round, and then go after the SP you like, since I'm assuming you must like SP at some point. If you are planning on your SP just being Santana and Hamels, then by all means, you must draft Hamels. But I'd be reasonably happy with Kazmir, Gallardo, Josh Johnson or any number of other guys as my #2, and Felix and that crowd are generally ranked ahead of those guys.
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Re: Hamels over Utley - #2 Pick

Postby IrishDrunk » Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:08 am

So, I went Utley. B-)

I also got King Felix, but, with pick #20 (not pick #14).

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