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Re: THE OFFICIAL "RICKIE WEEKS IS A JERK" THREAD

Postby lastingsgriller » Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:30 pm

master453 wrote:as someone that lives in the brewers area and watches a lot of their games i'm convinced that the "hype" and "upside" to weeks really isnt there. he is very athletically gifted but his approach to hitting is brutal. as is his defense at 2b. imo, weeks will never consistently hit for a high (ie .280 and up) average. weeks just isnt going to be hanley. and i think thats where the disappointment and loathing comes from. if you just let weeks be weeks and stop dreaming for the moon you'll realize weeks really does have a lot to offer.

in real life, you couldnt pay me to start weeks on my mlb team at 2b (maybe in CF though...). for fantasy purposes though, i am a huge fan of weeks. and i think at his current valuation (yahoo rank 191) he is criminally undervalued.

career 162 game averages of two guys
.245/111/19/57/28
.262/82/21/79/23

not a major difference. similar age, same position. yahoo ranks 24 vs 191. really?

obviously brandon phillips is a more "stable" (job security/health) player than weeks so that has to be accounted for. but say weeks stays healthy and the brewers bite the bullet and keep him at 2b for the next couple years. and he just continues to produce at his current rate, not improving at all. then what? sure he's a disappointment because he didnt become a hanley-like god, but he'd still have to be considered a darn good player for fantasy purposes- particularly at his current valuation.


yeah, rickie would be great... if he wasn't such a jerk..

still conviced that he kicked Tulo in the hammy and punched Prince in the nuts last year to effectively ruin the first few months of my fantasy season last year. jerk.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL "RICKIE WEEKS IS A JERK" THREAD

Postby Cards07Champs » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:26 pm

CubsFan7724 wrote:
Cards07Champs wrote:Weeks is just the Oliver Perez of position players.

Last season I gave up on Ollie. However, when you look at his 2007, he was very helpful. The problem came when you tried to spot start him. If you did that, you'd inevitably spot start him on his bad starts and bench him on his good ones.

The only solution was to start him every time knowing that on the aggregate, you'd get a good pitcher out of it.

Weeks is the same way. You absolutely CANNOT spot start the kid. You either make a commitment to his talent and start him every day, or you stay away. If you start him every day, you'll have plenty of days where he goes 0-4 with 2 Ks, but you'll also get the 3-4 with a HR and 2 SBs days. On balance, you'll have a plus 2bman.

That's assuming that the Brewers give him ABs.

If you're willing to ride out his bad games in order to ensure you catch his good ones, Weeks is a fine player to grab, especially around 220-250.

Yeah but 2B is significantly deeper this year than in year's past, so only in like, 16 + teams are you going to start running Rickie Weeks out there every day.

I've been burned by this mug far too often to ever count on him again. Especially in H2H.


If you believe he has talent that belies his results, there are maybe 5 2b you start over him. Again, you have to make a commitment to his talent. If you don't think he's actually that talented, that the last 2 seasons are what you're going to get and not a possible 20/20 guy, then you don't worry about him, he's just another guy that's not on your list.

I have him starting over Figgins in one league (empty SBs from a guy with a gimpy hamstring doesn't do much for me) and benched behind Cano in another one...for right now. Cano will surely suck in April like he always does and I'll be running Weeks out there soon enough.

If he give me 2 weeks of steady play, I'll be satisfied that the talent is being utilized and it's not just a spike. 2 or 3 games where he hits a HR and steals a base won't do it, that's standard Weeks stuff that won't sell me on the talent. But if he can give me 2 solid weeks, I'll be committed to his talent and I'll start him often enough to ride out the swings.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL "RICKIE WEEKS IS A JERK" THREAD

Postby lastingsgriller » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:43 pm

you just wait.. he'll getcha..
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Re: THE OFFICIAL

Postby jlm53089 » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:48 pm

I have Rickie Weeks on my team.
And you know what, he is a ball player.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL

Postby The Artful Dodger » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:56 pm

jlm53089 wrote:I have Rickie Weeks on my team.
And you know what, he is a ball player.
Bold Prediction of the Year...

.290 100 Runs 25 Homers 95 RBI 30 SB


That's bold and I'd share in your optimism, but Rickie Weeks stole my bud. What a jerk.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL

Postby jlm53089 » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:57 pm

The Artful Dodger wrote:
jlm53089 wrote:I have Rickie Weeks on my team.
And you know what, he is a ball player.
Bold Prediction of the Year...

.290 100 Runs 25 Homers 95 RBI 30 SB


That's bold and I'd share in your optimism, but Rickie Weeks stole my bud. What a jerk.



What kind of bud of yours did he steal?

I might share in the hate.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL "RICKIE WEEKS IS A JERK" THREAD

Postby SecretAgentMan » Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:37 pm

Cards07Champs wrote:
CubsFan7724 wrote:
Cards07Champs wrote:Weeks is just the Oliver Perez of position players.

Last season I gave up on Ollie. However, when you look at his 2007, he was very helpful. The problem came when you tried to spot start him. If you did that, you'd inevitably spot start him on his bad starts and bench him on his good ones.

The only solution was to start him every time knowing that on the aggregate, you'd get a good pitcher out of it.

Weeks is the same way. You absolutely CANNOT spot start the kid. You either make a commitment to his talent and start him every day, or you stay away. If you start him every day, you'll have plenty of days where he goes 0-4 with 2 Ks, but you'll also get the 3-4 with a HR and 2 SBs days. On balance, you'll have a plus 2bman.

That's assuming that the Brewers give him ABs.

If you're willing to ride out his bad games in order to ensure you catch his good ones, Weeks is a fine player to grab, especially around 220-250.

Yeah but 2B is significantly deeper this year than in year's past, so only in like, 16 + teams are you going to start running Rickie Weeks out there every day.

I've been burned by this mug far too often to ever count on him again. Especially in H2H.


If you believe he has talent that belies his results, there are maybe 5 2b you start over him. Again, you have to make a commitment to his talent. If you don't think he's actually that talented, that the last 2 seasons are what you're going to get and not a possible 20/20 guy, then you don't worry about him, he's just another guy that's not on your list.

I have him starting over Figgins in one league (empty SBs from a guy with a gimpy hamstring doesn't do much for me) and benched behind Cano in another one...for right now. Cano will surely suck in April like he always does and I'll be running Weeks out there soon enough.

If he give me 2 weeks of steady play, I'll be satisfied that the talent is being utilized and it's not just a spike. 2 or 3 games where he hits a HR and steals a base won't do it, that's standard Weeks stuff that won't sell me on the talent. But if he can give me 2 solid weeks, I'll be committed to his talent and I'll start him often enough to ride out the swings.


Cannot starting over Weeks? That is all you need to know...Anyone who is beaten out by Cannot can not be any good lol.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL "RICKIE WEEKS IS A JERK" THREAD

Postby Ender » Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:41 pm

Weeks is actually underrated in real baseball and overrated in fantasy, odd to see someone post the opposite. His defense isn't as bad as it used to be though it is still below replacement level, the walks make his offense at least league average at 2B even with the low AVG. The low AVG and playtime hiccups make his fantasy value extremely low.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL "RICKIE WEEKS IS A JERK" THREAD

Postby smoovethug » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:52 pm

Scott Olsen and Paul Lo Duca define JERK. Not because I ever owned any of the creeps just because they are.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL "RICKIE WEEKS IS A JERK" THREAD

Postby bigken117 » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:56 pm

Strasburg needs to take care of him once and for all... ;-)

Weeks helped me win big $$ in 2007.
So of course I looked him up in 08, then he obviously peed in my cheerios.
So I am staying away in 09, but the later it gets in drafts and the longer I see his name out there...
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