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Re: What Young Pitcher Blows a Shoulder First

Postby Kingctb27 » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:08 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:Fixed. :-D
Kingctb27 wrote:Here's a fun fact.

All pitchers are injury risks.

Well, that too. This is why I am not taking one of them in the top 5 rounds. ;-D
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Re: What Young Pitcher Blows a Shoulder First

Postby Yoda » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:21 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:Fixed. :-D
Kingctb27 wrote:Here's a fun fact.

All players are injury risks.


Fixed
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Re: What Young Pitcher Blows a Shoulder First

Postby Dan Lambskin » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:24 pm

Yoda wrote:
Pogotheostrich wrote:Fixed. :-D
Kingctb27 wrote:Here's a fun fact.

All players are injury risks.


Fixed


QFT...some just more than others
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Re: What Young Pitcher Blows a Shoulder First

Postby Neato Torpedo » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:41 pm

Ender wrote:
That is such a 21st century mindset. :-b Thousands of pitchers have had careers following the normal age curve after throwing 227+ innings


And I never said they didn't, I never said Lincecum was going to get hurt or lose effectiveness so I fail to see the problem here? I said Licecum is MORE likely to follow a path of early ineffectiveness due to innings THAN to blow out his shoulder or elbow. His mechanics are very sound so I don't worry as much about the major injury out of him. We don't KNOW how the innings are going to effect him, he might be one of those guys who are just fine with them, he might be the type that they aren't fine. I'm saying IF the innings do end up derailing things I expect it to follow the slow decline path rather than the traumatic injury path.

It was a response to him including Lincecum in his list, not me listing Lincecum as one of the guys I'm overly worried about right now but if he starts to slip some say 3 years from now I'll start to avoid him pretty quickly. Of course he gets drafted in the first 3 rounds so I'll never own him in the first place.

Well, I'm saying that he's no more likely to follow either the injury path or the early decline path than your average pitcher. Mine was a general response to the belief, not a direct response to what you said. I kinda drifted off, lol.
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Re: What Young Pitcher Blows a Shoulder First

Postby Ender » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:44 pm

I think pitchers with violent mechanics or guys who have problems repeating their mechanics are much bigger risks for injury. Plus of course guys who throw a lot of sliders and curves are much iffier in my book than those who throw more fastball/change up.
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Re: What Young Pitcher Blows a Shoulder First

Postby Yoda » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:49 pm

Ender wrote:I think pitchers with violent mechanics or guys who have problems repeating their mechanics are much bigger risks for injury. Plus of course guys who throw a lot of sliders and curves are much iffier in my book than those who throw more fastball/change up.


Sliders worry me yes. Curves no.
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Re: What Young Pitcher Blows a Shoulder First

Postby Inukchuk » Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:45 pm

I'm surprised (relieved?) no one's mentioned Scherzer. He's had some injury issues in the past, and I've heard his mechanics are 'loud.' My guess is that's not complimentary... :-o
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Re: What Young Pitcher Blows a Shoulder First

Postby RAmst23 » Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:59 pm

I think E. Santana continues to have injury problems through the year. Hamels may not have a huge injury (I know he's slated to miss a start here early on), but I see him being less effective this year due to the workload increase.

When I make my rankings, I look at which younger pitchers had a large increase in workload or have had a previous serious injury. If a pitcher doesn't fall into those categories, I just pretend they'll be healthy. Otherwise, I'll go nuts predicting an injury.
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Re: What Young Pitcher Blows a Shoulder First

Postby Neato Torpedo » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:00 pm

Inukchuk wrote:I'm surprised (relieved?) no one's mentioned Scherzer. He's had some injury issues in the past, and I've heard his mechanics are 'loud.' My guess is that's not complimentary... :-o

Yeah, a little pft, pft-boom!

But that's his fastball, not his mechanics.
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Re: What Young Pitcher Blows a Shoulder First

Postby Inukchuk » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:58 pm

Neato Torpedo wrote:
Inukchuk wrote:I'm surprised (relieved?) no one's mentioned Scherzer. He's had some injury issues in the past, and I've heard his mechanics are 'loud.' My guess is that's not complimentary... :-o

Yeah, a little pft, pft-boom!

But that's his fastball, not his mechanics.


That's what I'm hoping... ;-D
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