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Re: What is your guys opinion's on Ron Shandler?

Postby Yanks_Baby » Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:22 pm

Anyone care to enlighten me as to who he is and how to utilize his apparently helpful information?
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Re: What is your guys opinion's on Ron Shandler?

Postby Carey Saders » Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:36 pm

I subscribe to his website. I find the info especially helpful in regards to pitching.
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Re: What is your guys opinion's on Ron Shandler?

Postby dmbjeff » Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:38 am

i don't own his book, but did spend alot of hours at borders flipping through and reading various things in the book. the stats are all quite interesting, especially things that the average fantasy guy really don't think about but make sense, i.e. babib,gb/fb ratios, etc. his book really is just a more in depth way of projecting guys and their possible stats. he tells you why Nate McClouth for instance, can put up a certain level of numbers. not just an arbitrary, well he is young, hit 20 +HR and 20+SB last year, so expect the same.

if you are really into making your own personal rankings and projections, i think his book is a solid starting space. unfortunately, most fantasy players aren't concerned with going into that great of detail and prefer just to use someone else's projections or even shandler's projections. there was an excerpt that i enjoy, that basically said if you are just looking for projections, save your money and go buy a magazine. also the point that only 70% of all projections,at most, no matter who's they are, will ever be correct. this kinda of goes without saying, but when alot of people go into a draft thinking the projections will be good enough to make your team a winner, but in the end, its about so much more. injuries, trades, waivers, minor leaguers, etc.
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Re: What is your guys opinion's on Ron Shandler?

Postby The Mighty Trow » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:59 pm

Yanks_Baby wrote:Anyone care to enlighten me as to who he is and how to utilize his apparently helpful information?


I purchased the book in mid-Feb and it's already a hilighted, dog-earned crinkled mess. Definitely well traveled, though i haven't touched the website yet.

he uses interesting metrics like batting eye, contact rate, oba (for hitters) and command, dominance (for pitchers) to analyze why a player performs the way he does and what i means for the future. in other words, he'll give you a believable reason based on number crunching for why you should not expect more power from Loney at this time. theres very little supposition, if any.

i've found it to be a great tool (though not the only one in my arsenal) for analyzing players who are still young, coming off injuries, or on the decline.
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Re: What is your guys opinion's on Ron Shandler?

Postby lendog » Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:21 pm

This year some of the players he's touting are R.Domit,H.Pence and S.Baker. so those guys are defenitly higher on my draftboards than most.
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Re: What is your guys opinion's on Ron Shandler?

Postby lendog » Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:21 pm

This year some of the players he's touting are R.Domit,H.Pence and S.Baker. so those guys are defenitly higher on my draftboards than most.
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Re: What is your guys opinion's on Ron Shandler?

Postby Carey Saders » Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:29 pm

A couple more names he seems to be high on:

Vernon Wells
Chris Davis
Andre Ethier
Mike Jacobs
Javier Vazquez
Kevin Slowey
Brett Myers
Adam Wainwright
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Re: What is your guys opinion's on Ron Shandler?

Postby Yanks_Baby » Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:17 pm

Well I highly disagree with him regarding Wells. As do just about everyone here... I'd be surprised if Wells finishes top 150.
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Re: What is your guys opinion's on Ron Shandler?

Postby Yoda » Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:21 pm

Carey Saders wrote:A couple more names he seems to be high on:

Vernon Wells
Chris Davis
Andre Ethier
Mike Jacobs
Javier Vazquez
Kevin Slowey
Brett Myers
Adam Wainwright


I've seen a lot of 'experts' tout those names as well. Personally, I don't see what makes him different from the others. They are all good/bad and it is always up to each person to decide for himself who to draft and when.
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Re: What is your guys opinion's on Ron Shandler?

Postby Scarp » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:42 pm

i find the book to be a valuable resource. it's odd that sometimes the stats reveal a potential breakout yet the blurbs do not correlate. i wish he would include more players though...many of the would be sleepers are missing from the book.
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